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Bill: Blasphemy Reform Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative Monarchist Alliance
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 3724
Description[?]:
| We would prefer to do away entirely with these blasphemy laws, but given that is not a realistic possibility, we propose to downgrade it from a "grave offence" to a "criminal offence". Anton Rietveld Chairman of the Conservative Monarchist Alliance |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change State penalties for blasphemy
Old value:: Both private and public blasphemy are considered grave offenses, and are heavily prosecuted.
Current: No state penalties are issued for blasphemy.
Proposed: Public blasphemy is considered a criminal offense.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:46:58, September 05, 2014 CET | From |  Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Blasphemy Reform Act |
| Message | OOC: We have another law that says "Religious doctrine determines the death penalty" Even if the law is changed to make it a minor criminal offense, we should remember that people have been sentenced to death for petty things in the past (like allowing a company to go bankrupt). I think the vote on this variable should be separate from the vote on the proposal to have the maximum punishment being a 5-year sentence. |
| Date | 20:07:11, September 05, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Blasphemy Reform Act |
| Message | OOC: I'm not sure I really see why they need to be separate. This Bill downgrades the crime of blasphemy from a "grave offence" to a "criminal offence" and then lays out the maximum punishment for blasphemy. Obviously, this supercedes the variable about religious doctrine determining the death penalty. |
| Date | 20:14:50, September 05, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Blasphemy Reform Act |
| Message | OOC: The application of the death penalty has nothing to do with how serious an offense is. It's not applied for minor offenses or major offenses, just religious offenses. (Read these 2 sentences over and over until you understand). Allowing a company to go bankrupt isn't "a grave offense" but people were sentenced to death for it anyway, because of religious dogma (Lodamese Nationalism's ties to Socialism, Populism, and Statism). By precedent, the courts shouldn't care whether this would be "a grave offense" or a simple criminal one. The article could be passed by itself, especially since it also addresses what type of blasphemy is punished (public/private), and the actual prescribed sentence can be debated in a separate resolution. Even if the maximum of 5 years made sense, it could be debated separately. That way, when someone wants to change the sentence without changing the law, it doesn't look like it is killing/changing/invalidating this bill. It's best to have the law itself in one bill, and separate resolutions passed on how to apply the law. |
| Date | 23:43:45, September 05, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Blasphemy Reform Act |
| Message | OOC: Very well, then. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 56 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 461 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 82 |
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