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Bill: Murphy-Spaak Extradition
Details
Submitted by[?]: Grand Nationalist Fraction
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 3730
Description[?]:
| Since we have no confidence in the international community providing a fair trial, we would like to ask the Minister of Foreign Affairs to regulate the extradition of Paul Murphy-Spaak from Vanuku. He can be trialed in the nation he loves. Paul Murphy-Spaak Jr. MP for LNC |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:48:21, September 17, 2014 CET | From | People of Freedom (P.F) | To | Debating the Murphy-Spaak Extradition |
| Message | Mr. Speaker. why is paul in that country. And why has he been arrested.? For what crimes. Gregory Corazona Foreign Affairs Minister |
| Date | 19:57:38, September 17, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Murphy-Spaak Extradition |
| Message | OOC: Check out forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1605&p=76645#p76597 IC: Mr. Speaker, We too would like to see Paul Murphy-Spaak put on a fair and proper trial in Lodamun. I hope the Justice Minister will make the appropriate arrangements for holding to account those who played leading roles in the persecution of Hosians. Anton Rietveld Chairman of the Conservative Monarchist Alliance |
| Date | 20:20:02, September 17, 2014 CET | From |  Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Murphy-Spaak Extradition |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, When Hosians were being persecuted, it was legal. It was neither against our laws nor against any treaty that we had signed. To enforce penalties retroactively is silly and regressive. -- George Huddleson, GNRG Spokesman on Justice |
| Date | 23:00:27, September 17, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Murphy-Spaak Extradition |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Crimes against humanity are crimes against humanity whether they are "legal" at the time or not. Anton Rietveld Chairman of the Conservative Monarchist Alliance |
| Date | 00:07:53, September 18, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Murphy-Spaak Extradition |
| Message | At the time, Mr. Speaker, Hosians were not considered to be humans by law. If we're going to charge persons based on new laws passed, we might as well charge everyone for everything in the future. We might as well forget what is legal or illegal now, and hope that future changes in law will affect how our current actions are treated. This is the direction the CMA wants to take us in. -- George Huddleson, GNRG Spokesman on Justice |
| Date | 00:58:38, September 18, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Murphy-Spaak Extradition |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Does George Huddleson really believe the law has the authority to define a Hosian as not being human? Does he also think the law has the authority to define a triangle as a square? Anton Rietveld Chairman of the Conservative Monarchist Alliance |
| Date | 01:47:02, September 18, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Murphy-Spaak Extradition |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, If we're talking about law, then yes, the law does have the right to determine what is what, who is what, and what is considered to be a crime. -- George Huddleson, GNRG Spokesman on Justice |
| Date | 08:36:29, September 18, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Murphy-Spaak Extradition |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, My concern is why Paul Murphy-Spaak had left in the first place. We would also like a vote of the Supreme Court on this issue before the Presidium votes on it. -- George Huddleson, GNRG Spokesman on Justice |
| Date | 13:02:44, September 18, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Murphy-Spaak Extradition |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, On another point, we would appreciate an update on the status of Paul Murphy-Spaak's health, since we know he was the victim of a serious assault before he went to Vanuku. Obviously, this could have a bearing on his fitness to face trial. Anton Rietveld Chairman of the Conservative Monarchist Alliance OOC: See forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=57&start=380#p76309 |
| Date | 16:20:34, September 18, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Murphy-Spaak Extradition |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Paul left shortly after the attack, fearing for his safety. He received political asylum in Vanuku, the country of his ancestors. He left in good health and led a good but simple life. Eventhough, we haven't heared from him since his arrest. Clothilde Dewitte LNC spokesman |
| Date | 20:55:01, September 18, 2014 CET | From | People of Freedom (P.F) | To | Debating the Murphy-Spaak Extradition |
| Message | Mr. Speaker. Let us call upon the supreme court. Gregory Corazona Foreign Minister. |
| Date | 04:25:17, September 19, 2014 CET | From | People of Freedom (P.F) | To | Debating the Murphy-Spaak Extradition |
| Message | Mr. Speaker. I might fail at extradition of Paul. However if so. We urge LNC to approach next administration to follow through if they please Gregory Corazona Foreign Minister |
| Date | 04:28:01, September 19, 2014 CET | From | People of Freedom (P.F) | To | Debating the Murphy-Spaak Extradition |
| Message | Mr. Speaker. We would like to ask the presidium if the option of activating Lodamese special forces to bring Mr. Murphy-Spaak home. Is off the table? Gregory Corazona Foreign Affairs Minister |
| Date | 04:28:58, September 19, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Murphy-Spaak Extradition |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We would prefer diplomatic negotiations with Vanuku for now. -- Nicholas Yenven, GNRG Spokesman on Foreign Affairs |
| Date | 13:58:03, September 19, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Murphy-Spaak Extradition |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, An illegal special forces operation in Vanuku would not be a good idea, but even if it was, a more competent Foreign Minister would not use a public statement to tip off the Vanukuese authorities in advance! We can probably be assured that the security surrounding Paul Murphy-Spaak has now been increased. Sergio Arechavaleta Foreign Affairs spokesman |
| Date | 01:01:52, September 20, 2014 CET | From |  Knstat Nrzilyk Kmitat | To | Debating the Murphy-Spaak Extradition |
| Message | Members of the Lodamunese parliament, The dangerous and war-mongering statements made by Lodamunese politicians and ministers regarding the issue of mr. Murphy-Spaak greatly worries the government of Vanuku. The nation of Vanuku hereby terminates any diplomatic channels with Lodamun. If Lodamunese soldiers are found on Vanukuian soil we will see it as an act of war and defend our nation. Remember Zardugal, they tried to touch the fatherland as well. Lazr T. Vrn Consul-General |
| Date | 01:59:32, September 20, 2014 CET | From | Conservative Monarchist Alliance | To | Debating the Murphy-Spaak Extradition |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Yet again it has become apparent that Lodamun's political establishment is woefully cack-handed when it comes to managing our overseas relations. Who knows where they will mess up next? Sergio Arechavaleta Foreign Affairs spokesman |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 332 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 267 |
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