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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of September 3735
Details
Submitted by[?]: Grand Nationalist Fraction
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 3736
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
As per the Constitution, the President of the Commonwealth chairs the cabinet.
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Movement for Percyism
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Movement for Percyism
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Movement for Percyism
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the 
Great National Republican Guard
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Great National Republican Guard
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Movement for Percyism
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Great National Republican Guard
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Grand Nationalist Fraction
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Social Libermuns Party
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Social Libermuns Party
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Movement for Percyism
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Movement for Percyism
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:34:37, September 30, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 3735 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I hope we can reach an agreement on this. We need a new Cabinet since the LRP ministers have abandoned the Cabinet. |
| Date | 07:45:26, September 30, 2014 CET | From | Movement for Percyism | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 3735 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We could agree in giving up the Presidency in order to form a strong cabinet. |
| Date | 14:50:15, September 30, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 3735 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, My Justice spokesman made it clear that I am not a fan of EL. Why would we want them to have as much as 5 cabinet positions under their control? We could not have been expected to vote on favour of this. They don't even know much about our culture, and we should give them Education & Culture? -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, President of Lodamun |
| Date | 14:51:59, September 30, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 3735 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, eventhough EL is unexperienced in Lodamun, they are being backed by LNC. Alexander Desmedt LNC chairman |
| Date | 15:12:25, September 30, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 3735 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Members of my party simply don't care. We dislike EL. It isn't only about experience. -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, President of Lodamun |
| Date | 15:15:34, September 30, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 3735 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, we respect Mr. President's opinion. We hope his party can come up with another proposal soon. We could continue as we were, but since LRP Ministers have resigned, we need a new Cabinet soon. Alexander Desmedt LNC chairman |
| Date | 15:18:47, September 30, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 3735 |
| Message | I agree, Mr. Speaker. We need a new cabinet soon. This won't be achieved by making 20 cabinet proposals without having a proper discussion on one. -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, President of Lodamun |
| Date | 15:28:53, September 30, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 3735 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, then we suggest that we discuss the programs. What should be done during the next legislature and whom will be put on the right places to achieve our goals. We, for one, have one program point: getting Paul Murphy-Spaak back. He has recently been moved to a new facility and there is no means of communication anymore. We find this most disturbing. Clothilde Dewitte LNC spokesman |
| Date | 15:42:09, September 30, 2014 CET | From | Movement for Percyism | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 3735 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Our main points are; 1/ De jure and de facto no prosecution against those who not follow Lodamese Nationalism, other religions will remain banned. 2/ Placing the foundation for a self sufficiant Lodamese economy. 3/ Protecting our trade routes, with force, with the countries who doesn't maintain an embargo upon our country. 4/ The returning of Mr. Spaak. |
| Date | 15:46:23, September 30, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 3735 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, These sound like legislative campaign points. We still aren't having a discussion on forming a cabinet. We still don't know what each party is willing to accept What the LNC and EL are saying now are not things which will help us to determine what the next cabinet should look like. None of this is helping us to form a better cabinet proposal. We need to have a discussion strictly about cabinets. -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, President of Lodamun |
| Date | 16:49:33, September 30, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 3735 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Our priorities are: Defence, which is a conditional post for us to enter a coalition. Eventually Internal Affairs and Education. Alexander Desmedt LNC chairman Vice-President of Lodamun |
| Date | 17:10:10, September 30, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 3735 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Well for my party to enter a coalition, we require: - Finance to be controlled by the GNRG - Trade/Industry to be controlled by the GNRG - Less than 3 cabinet positions controlled by EL -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, President of Lodamun |
| Date | 18:33:15, September 30, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 3735 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, let us hear what the other parties have to say. Clothilde Dewitte LNC spokesman |
| Date | 20:11:59, September 30, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 3735 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Why didn't we do that before making 3 cabinet proposals which are bound to fail? -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, President of Lodamun |
| Date | 20:16:48, September 30, 2014 CET | From | People of Freedom (P.F) | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 3735 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker. We will not be supporting this desperate cabinet thoughtless put together. Next 4 years we would like to work with the defence minister regarding defence issues we believe are relevant as well as forming a adequate intelligence network around the terra. And we would like to see more funds allocated to the internal ministry. Where this will also be alocated to our intelligence agency. Our main focus will be the security and developmwnt of lodamun towards a complete internationally independent state that is ready tk deal with any threat effectively. We thank you. Phillipa Corazona LRP Leader and National Spokesperson |
| Date | 20:27:32, September 30, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 3735 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, we would like to add that Miss Corazona had her pupils flee the Cabinet after the elections. Maybe the 'desperate cabinet' and the ' thougtless' are inappropriate here. Clothilde Dewitte LNC spokesman |
| Date | 21:34:23, September 30, 2014 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 3735 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, what if we made a reshuffle granting EL the positions LRP has abandoned? Fons Degraer Minister of Internal Affairs |
| Date | 22:28:19, September 30, 2014 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 3735 |
| Message | No, Mr. Speaker. We don't want EL in control of powerful portfolios like Foreign Affairs or Defence. -- Gordon Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, President of Lodamun |
| Date | 22:42:25, September 30, 2014 CET | From | Movement for Percyism | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of September 3735 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, It's starting to become more like a personal vendetta of the GNRG against my Party. " As long those guys can't get this or that. " Is this a constructive way to form a decent cabinet? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 214 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 164 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 221 |
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