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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of October 2165

Details

Submitted by[?]: Libertarian Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: June 2166

Description[?]:

Proposing a Cabinet

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date17:54:16, January 03, 2006 CET
FromLibertarian Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of October 2165
MessageAs no other party seems willing to move their cabinet proposals to vote, and as this nation is currently without a Chairperson due to the attack on Libertarian Party HQ. We will propose this cabinet the reflects the new standings in Hutori and move it to immediate vote.

Date18:23:34, January 03, 2006 CET
FromGlobal Democracy Movement Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of October 2165
MessageThat's nice... is any place for me or i'm not one of you're friend's?

the cabinet should be made with the most voted parties, and should embrace the most number of parties distributed for all areas, if not so, it should be made just by one party.

But making a cabinet with just friend's, that's much more fun.

Well you know that the other two named parties for the cabinet will vote yes, and you have what you want.

If i made a proposal for a cabinet it wouldn't be accepted, but i guess it would be so much fair and just.

But your party doesn't defend that i know.

Date18:44:13, January 03, 2006 CET
FromLibertarian Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of October 2165
MessageActually no.

If you look at it, the most efficient cabinet is the one that contains the least amount of parties that can still carry a majority. Otherwise nothing gets done as no-one can agree on anything.

Date19:18:30, January 03, 2006 CET
FromGlobal Democracy Movement Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of October 2165
MessageIt's what we said, or a cabinet with the most voted parties, and Right is Right not one of them, or you make a cabinet with only your party.

Two choices, a single party cabinet, or a coligation of the most voted parties.

Making a cabinet with friend's it's like playing barbies in teams.

Date22:10:40, January 03, 2006 CET
FromGlobal Democracy Movement Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of October 2165
MessageStructure of the Executive branch -> Currently: The Head of State and Head of Government are two seperate officials

If the True Religion Party is the Head of State, they should not do part of the government, because they would be violating the law that separates the two power's.

Date22:41:35, January 03, 2006 CET
FromGlobal Democracy Movement Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of October 2165
MessageThe True Religion Party can't be part of the cabinet, that's against the law, and the constitution.

If the cabinet should to violate the constitution, or the Head of State, they both should resign their places at front of the government.

Making a cabinet with the party of the Head of State, will violate a constitutional need, the seperation of the two officials, the cabinet and the head of state have the same executive function but they should do it so seperated.

Date22:45:30, January 03, 2006 CET
FromGlobal Democracy Movement Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of October 2165
MessageThe Head of State and Head of Government are two seperate officials

This doesn't mean that this to functions are not the same, but they should be completely seperated from each other, the cabinet is for execute the legislation, the head of state watch for that execution, but can't execute it.
The only link that the Head of State has with the Cabinet is for consult, the cabinet can be consult by the Head of State.

Date15:46:17, January 04, 2006 CET
FromConservative-Libertarian Party (UM)
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of October 2165
MessageYou could have said all of that in much less words.

What do you mean, Right is Right Party does not vote. We vote on just about every proposal there is. The most efficient cabinet is where all parties involved agree with policies. As the three proposed all have very similar philosophy, it seems obvious that they should govern together. As you have no seats, we do not really understand why you complain. Please stop being such a wet and sort out you beliefs.

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Voting

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Total Seats: 161

no
    

Total Seats: 132

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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