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Bill: Communists taxes the Economy

Details

Submitted by[?]: Government of Tropica

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: November 3781

Description[?]:

Mr. Speaker

Because the federal government does not play its role in the economy, our economy has decreased, we pass from a GDP of nearly 3 000 000 000 BLD to 2 500 000 000 BLD.

The Communist would like to be able to propose their own taxes, a flat taxes of 15%, voluntary based on income, we will use these taxes to build the Evil / Darklight Network, which will give service to the population, in many area, like education, regardless of languages. <

Education, Environment, Culture come to mind, but also healthcare and sports

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The taxes will be voluntary, so if people don't want to pay, they don't have to and the EPLCP will seek who pay taxes or not.
Taxes are 15%
We will accept donations.
Open to negociation
people could pay more taxes.
Income shall given to the Secretariat of Secrets and income declared will top secret to all but the elect secretariat,
Secretariat shall be composed of 24 persons, 12 males and 12 females, 8 Spanish speaking, 8 English speaking and 8 French Speaking, up to reelection, individually.

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So, what are the thoughs others parties on this, we need money and ressources to do something,

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date07:22:45, December 29, 2014 CET
FromUnion Canrillaise
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageMr. Speaker,

Nobody in their right mind will willingly pay 15% of their income in addition to the taxes they currently pay to the government to fund a communist party.

Norbert Linville
Union Canrillaise Leader

Date15:57:07, December 29, 2014 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageMr. Speaker.

on the other hand, we estimate more then 80% of the population will pay 15% or more percent of their income to the communist party, this may even bring tax evasions, people paying the communist party rather the government, while we do no ecnourage tax evasion, a very detailled petition of more 1 000 0000 names forces to present the idea of raising taxes ourselves.
if this bring some taxes evasion, we consider it is because people what service and the governmen does not do its job while the communist party bring service. after, we are not the government. but we say again, we are encourageing Taxe evasion

Date17:17:17, December 29, 2014 CET
FromBaltusia Partido Conservador
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageMr. Speaker,

I agree with the Union Canrillaise no one would ever voluntarily pay taxes.

Rodriquez Gragomo
Conservative MNC, Terrarokka

Date18:56:36, December 29, 2014 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageMR. Speaker

why we don't try it, we have receive a demand. We will give rapport once we start collecting taxes.
if ever this start taxes evasions, we are sorry for the government, many this means you should start giving service instead of spending too much money on defence.

Vickie Nadeau-Bolivar

Date19:02:37, December 29, 2014 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageMR. Speaker,

we propose to reveal the Communist party finance and the success of the taxes on each Nicibhaix, as well the spending of the party on each entreprises, we are not excepting the taxes to work like the state can, because we have no monopole of violence, we are simply awaiting something like 30% of the population to give, but who know the result until we try.
So, we start collecting them.

Vickie Nadeau-Bolivar


Date19:06:07, December 29, 2014 CET
FromUnion Canrillaise
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageMr. Speaker,

These cannot even be called taxes, since the Communist Party is not the government and cannot force Baltusians to pay. In that case, we already allow the people to contribute to political parties. It's called donations. If the EPCP is running low on funds, that's their problem.

Norbert Linville
Union Canrillaise Leader

Date19:41:33, December 29, 2014 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageMr. Speaker,

We prefer the term voluntary taxes, because this money will not be used for the party electoral needs, this money will be used to give service, not to fight for power. We are not that desperate to be in the government.

Vickie Nadeau-Bolivar

Date20:19:37, December 29, 2014 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageFor Archeving purpose, since I am already allowed to receive donations

Date02:10:06, December 30, 2014 CET
FromPartido Ecosocialista
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageSheer madness from a lunatic Luthorian-speaking, foreign bankrolled party.

Date02:15:39, December 30, 2014 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageThe EPLCP has no connection with luthorie, and is not back by foreign industries.

Date02:37:14, December 30, 2014 CET
FromPartido Ecosocialista
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageClearly it is foreign considering its name is in Luthorian and its politicians have predominantly Luthorian names.

Date02:39:04, December 30, 2014 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageSure Selez is a Luthorian name, Nadeau is a luthoran name, sure...

Date02:44:31, December 30, 2014 CET
FromPartido Ecosocialista
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
Message'Evil Pro-life Communist Party' is Luthorian.

Date02:48:54, December 30, 2014 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageMainly because there is no good traduction in spanish or in french of the name of party.

Date02:55:28, December 30, 2014 CET
FromUnion Canrillaise
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageSpanish: Evilo Pro-Lifo Communisma Partido

French: Eeveel Pour-Lifé Communisme Parti

There.

Date03:07:01, December 30, 2014 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageFrench name is just ridiculous, and spanish name is.. I Could see, Evilo Por La Viva Communismo Partido rather that this.
French would have to be, Le terrible parti Communiste pro-vie.

Date03:43:13, December 30, 2014 CET
FromUnion Canrillaise
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageWhat about:

Parti Bizarre

Parti Stupide

Parti Étrange

Date03:48:32, December 30, 2014 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageGet lost

Date04:25:24, December 30, 2014 CET
FromUnion Canrillaise
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageNever.

Date05:12:24, December 30, 2014 CET
FromBaltusia Partido Conservador
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageOOC: Calm down guys.

Date12:26:06, December 30, 2014 CET
FromPartido Ecosocialista
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageIt would have to be Evil-Good Pro-Life Pro-Death Dark-Light Shadowlight Communist Parti Stupide.

Date17:53:53, December 30, 2014 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
Messagecalm youself, my party is just as left as you, if not more.

Date01:27:17, December 31, 2014 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageWe reveal our first financial year, the communist party has received, 100 334 153 102 BLD.
We find it hard to believe, but the money is there. maybe the people want to receive the Communist service, but does not want to vote for communists... who knows ? the vast majorities of those are anonimous donations, including one of 10 000 000 000 BLD, given by anonymous donator. we wonder who in the earth have so much to give 10 000 000 000 BLD to a political party ? Ah well, in any case, the EPLCP consider the donations are somewhat working, this shall invested in the party enterprises right now.

Date04:40:31, January 02, 2015 CET
FromUnion Canrillaise
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageMr. Speaker,

The Communists are fabricating their donations. They are doing so to rally support for something as ludicrous as a wet dream without the pleasure. It is folly to believe that Communists, of all people, will provide any service at all better than government. Let the government, consisting of a diverse group of people, rule this nation - not the Communists! The Communists are subverting this nation through all means necessary to achieve their disgusting goals! Here is one stanza from the far left and obviously communist pop start group, Red Star:

"Become a Communist
Communism is life
Communism is beatiful
Become a Communist"

Mr. Speaker, this is crazy! I do not know why Baltusians around the country dance to this trash! Luckily, the Canrillaise have turned their heads towards this lower-level garbage for greater music, but I am distressed, even so, that a race such as the Baltusians feel that this amounts to popular music, when in fact, the rock that my dog pooped on this morning could do better than Red Star! I yield the floor.

Norbert Linville
Party Leader
Union Canrillaise MNC (Albiland)

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Monsieur le Président,

Les communistes sont fabriquer leurs dons. Ils le font de façon à rallier un appui en faveur de quelque chose d'aussi ridicule comme un rêve humide sans le plaisir. C'est de la folie de croire que les communistes, de tous les gens, fournira tout de mieux que le gouvernement. Laisser le gouvernement, composé d'un groupe diversifié de personnes, règle cette nation - pas les communistes ! Les communistes subvertissent cette nation par tous les moyens nécessaires pour atteindre leurs objectifs dégoûtant ! Ici, c'est une strophe de l'extrême-gauche et de toute évidence pop communiste démarrer le groupe, la Red Star :

"Devenir un communiste
le communisme c'est la vie
le communisme est magnifique
devenu un communiste"

monsieur le Président, c'est dingue ! Je ne sais pas pourquoi Baltusians autour de la danse country à cette corbeille ! Heureusement, le Canrillaise ont tourné leurs chefs vers ce niveau inférieur des ordures pour plus de musique, mais je suis désolé, quand même, qu'une course comme le Baltusians estiment que cela revient à la musique populaire, alors qu'en fait, le rock que mon chien blâmées sur ce matin pourrait faire mieux que Red Star ! Je cède la parole.

Norbert Linville
Party Leader
Union Canrillaise MNC (Albiland)

Date05:54:59, January 02, 2015 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageSorry, Mr. Speaker, but the union canrillaise do not understand what is going on, and will never does,

We are currently free internet, at very fast speed at all population, we are putting the money in the darklight entreprise, in Abiland, more then 10 000 famillies where able to receive bio-food for themselves and their child, we are aware this is not perfect, we are not perfect, but you can't critic us for trying to help people.

OOC : for a french speaking party, your google traudction is an insult to french.

Date06:00:10, January 02, 2015 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageIN fact, we could even say the last election was poor for us, people gave us more then 100 000 000 000%, yet even if they gives us money, they do not vote for us, but we don't care, we did not ask for their votes, we allow anonimousity for their protection and because we don't really want to know who gives us money.

we have money printing machine Mr. Speaker.

Marnady Evil, secretary of the DPLCP

Date06:18:49, January 02, 2015 CET
FromUnion Canrillaise
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageMr. Speaker,

What the Communists are trying to do is ensure all Baltusians become dependent on low quality services provided by the corporation owned by the terrible Evil company. This isn't about helping, rather, it is about power.

Norbert Linville
Party Leader
Union Canrillaise MNC (Albiland)

OOC: I do hope I sound insulting. Hollande is pretty terrible, and I can't name a French President who didn't go to jail. You should use Google translate yourself. It might actually be an improvement.

Date06:34:59, January 02, 2015 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageIt did now know that extremely fast internet for free was a bad service, sure, it is quite bad, it allow virus like all others internet providors.

Marnady Evil.

OOC : so what, he is president, that is what count right now, not before, i don't use google translate, you should learn french, google translate cannot make me learn english and beside I know english, I just think in french, always.

Date06:54:09, January 02, 2015 CET
FromUnion Canrillaise
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageMr. Speaker,

The Communists intend to release viruses to all Baltusians. This will greatly harm our capacity to govern as a nation and will damage our military structure. Real people should provide internet. Not the Communist robots! *Union Canrillaise MNCs cheer*

Norbert Linville
Party Leader
Union Canrillaise MNC (Albiland)

Date07:22:43, January 02, 2015 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageMr Speaker,

Communists are individual, not robot, this is a grave insult, but seeing who say it, not surprised,
As long as their internet, there shall always be virus, only advice is to get an open-source operating system or a good anti-virus, open-source operating system can be download for free on internet from distrowatch.com, and we did not make a single of them, but the open source a clear libertarian communist concept, and very working, we are in love with Linux.

Does the UC as other insults to thrown at us.

Also, I would like to say, that w are proud to have elect 70 females, yeah, for males that is a very little ratio, but the others party always elect a majority of male, we just compensate.

Marnadi Evil.

Date07:49:10, January 02, 2015 CET
FromUnion Canrillaise
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageMr. Speaker,

The Communists are troubling. Where is the secret police when you need them!

Norbert Linville
Party Leader
Union Canrillaise MNC (Albiland)

Date07:51:25, January 02, 2015 CET
FromGovernment of Tropica
ToDebating the Communists taxes the Economy
MessageMr. Speaker,

What is wrong with having 70 female representatives ? so far we communists have done no crime.

Vickie Nadeau-Bolivar.

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