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Bill: Cooperatives posts
Details
Submitted by[?]: Government of Tropica
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 3783
Description[?]:
| With the passing of the law, post shall be privates, cooperatives, non-profit and democratics, they shall also have obligations for the weak and the unfortunate. Victoria Nadal-Martinez Article 1- Post agencie must be democratic 2- Post agencies shall decide of their own democratic system 3- in case of misuderstanding, workers or dissident can appeal to the Congreso Nacional and state their case 4- in case of a decision reach, the congreso nacional shall make a resolution and vote on the resolution, the congreso nacional can delegate its power and right to a comittee, following a vote and can reclaim its power at any time. 5- Post agencies will have the right to seek profit or not, that decision will depend on the will of the workers of those agencies, they shall deceive if their entreprise if lucrative or not. 6- Post agencies shall be given the right to redistribute the money they make how they want, 7- All decisions in post agencies that are binding for them are taken by democratic system. 8- Post agencies do not have the right to set monopole. 9- Post agencies are forbidden to take avantage of people 10- Post agencies are forbidden to charge price that are too high 11- People who are disabled have the right to receive post at the their home 12- Post Agencies have the right to be nationalised by a vote on a resolution of nationalisation by the 2/3 of their members and their clients, nationalised post agencies cannot be privatised except by the same process, a vote on a resolution of privatisation by 2/3 of their members and clients. 13- Nationalised post agencies are recognized as local governments and have the full right to keep their independance. 14- This bill take effect on 1 january 3783 |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the post office
Old value:: There is a nationalised post office. Private post office agencies are allowed to exist, and the services provided by them are not regulated.
Current: There is a nationalised post office. Private post office agencies are allowed to exist, and the services provided by them are not regulated.
Proposed: Only private post agencies exist, and the services they provide are regulated.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 04:00:57, January 02, 2015 CET | From | Partido Moderado Nacional | To | Debating the Cooperatives posts |
| Message | Mr.Speaker, We moderates aren't ready to sell off the national post service and are surprised that this bill comes from the communist party, of all places! Not only do we oppose selling our postal service, but we also oppose the way they propose setting up these private enterprises! Instead of our national postal service we would have a bureaucratic entanglement of rules that would destroy the postal system. A resounding "no" from us. *moderates cheer* Suzanna Sergant Party Leader Moderate MNC, Athosia |
| Date | 04:51:23, January 02, 2015 CET | From | Union Canrillaise | To | Debating the Cooperatives posts |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, This is disgusting. This is hypocrisy at the highest levels. In fact, when the famous scientist, Galileo Galileolalala looked at to the skies through his telescope, he saw a dot next to one of the planets. That dot, which was thousands of miles away, was actually the hypocrisy of the EPLCP. Yes, that is a true story. Now, what is the point? The point is, that this is ridiculous, and deserves to fail. Thank you. *Union Canrillaise MNCs cheer and hail their leader* Norbert Linville Party Leader Union Canrillaise MNC (Albiland) |
| Date | 06:42:27, January 02, 2015 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the Cooperatives posts |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Our national service may be gone for sometimes, but depending on the will of the workers of the post agencies, it can be back, only this time, there will be more then one national posts. What the communism, are democratic organisations, and this is what this bill defend, give back power to workers, allow them to nationalize the agencies or privatise at their will, Meanwhile, we can also assure that the way we are creating new democratic organisation will not placed the poor or the disabled in danger. We can aslo reassure the partido moderate nacional that they not understand the communism, we advocate for outlawing private poperty and we are putting entreprise that are collective or mutual properties. Victoria Nadal-Martinez |
| Date | 07:07:17, January 02, 2015 CET | From | Union Canrillaise | To | Debating the Cooperatives posts |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, This is an issue that many centrists believe should be a government service. It always has been and shall remain, and this blatant effort by the pseudo-Communists to privatize it of all things is both ridiculous and hurtful to the millions of Baltusians who look forward to receiving their mail from the always-smiling, government postal person. Norbert Linville Party Leader Union Canrillaise MNC (Albiland) |
| Date | 07:14:35, January 02, 2015 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the Cooperatives posts |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The post Office can be nationalised, the bill even give right to the population to nationalise it. it also put some restrictive rules on the post, As we already said, we don't exactly care about the role of the state, we believe the organisation must be democratic, a person oppress by the private sector, becoming oppressed by the state is still oppressed. Victoria Nadal-Martinez |
| Date | 17:27:39, January 02, 2015 CET | From | Baltusia Partido Conservador | To | Debating the Cooperatives posts |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I think that Galileo would be offened by the remarks of Norbert Linville. Katie Simpson Foreign Minister Conservative MNC, Lindar Valley |
| Date | 01:29:22, January 04, 2015 CET | From | Frente Liberal Nacional | To | Debating the Cooperatives posts |
| Message | OOC:You have just stolen my ideal. |
| Date | 01:34:38, January 04, 2015 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the Cooperatives posts |
| Message | OOC: no, this is the same bill as your, there is a very important rp element in my bill. |
| Date | 20:25:40, January 04, 2015 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the Cooperatives posts |
| Message | how can I fail to remove my own bill. damn me. |
| Date | 22:51:41, January 04, 2015 CET | From | Government of Tropica | To | Debating the Cooperatives posts |
| Message | I am voting becaue I wanted to remove that bill, |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 278 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 157 |
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