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Bill: State Church Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Pnték Prsakij Prta (Phalangists)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 2167
Description[?]:
| A bill to make Christianity our official religion. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Old value:: The government has no policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Current: The government has no policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Proposed: The government selectively screens which religions are permitted to send missionaries to the nation. Certain religions are approved and travel is unregulated.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The state's intervention in the appointment of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Current: The state has the right to veto the appointment of any ministers of religion.
Proposed: The state nominates ministers of religion, but the appointment is left up to the religious communities themselves.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Current: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Proposed: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religion shall be borne by the state and regulated by the law.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: There is no official state religion, but the government only allows recognized religions. 'Cults' are persecuted.
Proposed: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:41:43, January 05, 2006 CET | From |  One Nation Conservative Party | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | I'd vote for 4 if it were placed in a different bill. |
| Date | 19:42:28, January 05, 2006 CET | From | SeeYainHell Party | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | I'd vote for none if they were placed in a different bill. |
| Date | 19:57:28, January 05, 2006 CET | From | Pnték Prsakij Prta (Phalangists) | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | Haha, thats the idea |
| Date | 20:14:19, January 05, 2006 CET | From | One Nation Conservative Party | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | Fine I'll propose my own bill with article 4 in it at a later date. |
| Date | 22:28:08, January 05, 2006 CET | From | SeeYainHell Party | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | I think i was misinterpreted... I'll vote for none in this bill and if any are in a different bill... I will vote for none of them |
| Date | 22:28:49, January 05, 2006 CET | From | SeeYainHell Party | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | I was playing with I'd vote for if... It didn't work apparently |
| Date | 10:55:05, January 06, 2006 CET | From | Pnték Prsakij Prta (Phalangists) | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | I was playing back, the idea is you don't vote for it, ever |
| Date | 19:55:58, January 06, 2006 CET | From | One Nation Conservative Party | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | I'm going to vote for it just to piss Phalanx off, though will repeal the ones I'm not fond of later i.e most of them. |
| Date | 20:03:03, January 06, 2006 CET | From | Pnték Prsakij Prta (Phalangists) | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | How does it piss us of? To know the One Nation tradition is shifting to the right is not a bad thing. |
| Date | 21:30:41, January 06, 2006 CET | From | SeeYainHell Party | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | yeah, thats pretty rightist 1NCON, mandated religion? It's not very cohesive with your past judgements. I'm not sure, but i've heard that incohesiveness can be dangerous to your support. But whatever, I'm like you than any other party, so I'll get your votes. HOHOHOHOHO |
| Date | 21:39:46, January 06, 2006 CET | From | One Nation Conservative Party | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | I hate you Trib. |
| Date | 21:41:00, January 06, 2006 CET | From | One Nation Conservative Party | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | I'll wait for a bill that comes along that I apporvae of rather than attempting to pass a bill merely to repeal many of its articles. |
| Date | 23:12:02, January 06, 2006 CET | From | Pontesi Imperial Alliance | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | The Pontesi Imperial Alliance supports this bill. We feel that religion is important in the lives of our citizens, and that the state should recognize this and support it. |
| Date | 00:14:53, January 07, 2006 CET | From | SeeYainHell Party | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | since this bill is blank slate RidingtheScree recommends going here: http://www.genesis-music.com/lamb1.htm look at song number 21 What a great album If you like deep, intricate music with complex themes, heavy riffs and abrasive concepts Early Genesis is as good as any band which serves them up. Compare to Pink Floyd, Rush, Alan Parsons Project. Just don't dabble in Post-Peter Gabriel Genesis (yes he was originally lead man of this band), with Phil Collins (yes he was the drummer and then lead man) cuz although its somewhat entertaining within three albums of the split it starts sucking. (this is not propaganda) Just convert to Progressive Rock (thats what it calls, if you want to know what it is go to the last song, "It" which is an allegory to the genre and don't ask any questions. Listen to "Back in N.Y.C" if you have napster, if you grove to it you may be a musical genius like all us Progressive rock fans. "In the Cage," "Carpet Crawlers" and of course "The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway" are excellent and some would say even better introductions. I love destroying popular music as much as popular morality :) |
| Date | 23:21:56, January 07, 2006 CET | From |  Pnték Znkak Prta 'Bastardry' | To | Debating the State Church Bill |
| Message | Kurui are diehard secularists and will, whilst respecting your opinions, oppose any legislation to institute a state religion. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 23 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 61 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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