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Bill: Retirement Age and Abortion Funding
Details
Submitted by[?]: Free Democratic Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 3826
Description[?]:
| "First off, we don't think we need a retirement age. People should work until they want to stop. We do have a retirement age, and therefore, we should raise it. People live a long time. Why should public pensions kick in so early? In fact, public pensions are voluntary, and therefore, we don't even need a retirement age. Whatever." ~Ted Johnson, Head Chairman of the LPS and Prime Minister |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The professional retirement age.
Old value:: 60
Current: 65
Proposed: 75
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Policy of the government concerning the funding of abortions
Old value:: The government leaves the funding for abortions up to the local governments.
Current: The government does not provide funding for abortions.
Proposed: The government has no policy on abortion funding.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:24:42, April 04, 2015 CET | From |  SUN | To | Debating the Retirement Age and Abortion Funding |
| Message | People are still free pursue work beyond their retirement age if they want, Ted. That isn't the point of a retirement age. But... 'whatever.' |
| Date | 22:28:30, April 04, 2015 CET | From | Federal Green Party (FGP) | To | Debating the Retirement Age and Abortion Funding |
| Message | 60 seems like a reasonable time to have pensions kick in. And currently you could continue to work if you like. But, in the same token, if you choose not to work anymore (perhaps due to health conditions caused by your age) then you could still survive thanks to a public or private pension plan (or a combination of the two). Productivity goes down exponentially the older people get after about the age of 60. I do agree that people should be free to keep working if they like but they can do so regardless of what the retirement age is. The only difference is they would have to work if this proposal is passed. Another issue, many companies do not want to hire older folks. So if you lose your job at 65, for example, then you will have a hell of a time trying to find another place to work at. Mostly because companies don't want to invest their resources in a very old worker who will retire soon anyways. As far as abortions, we support current laws that allow state and local governments to fund abortions and set abortion policies. |
| Date | 22:31:36, April 04, 2015 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the Retirement Age and Abortion Funding |
| Message | "Abortion has nothing to do with pensions. Utter nonsense." Astryd Goldsea, Unionist Leader |
| Date | 23:59:46, April 04, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Democrats | To | Debating the Retirement Age and Abortion Funding |
| Message | I only agree with article 2 |
| Date | 15:55:33, April 05, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Democrats | To | Debating the Retirement Age and Abortion Funding |
| Message | *I mean I only agree with article 1 |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 92 | ||||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 433 | ||||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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