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Bill: Abortion Bill, 3830
Details
Submitted by[?]: Guglib Jeongchi Yeonhab
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 3831
Description[?]:
| Westernisation and liberalism have led to an appalling decline in sexual morals, resulting in a horrific level of abortions being performed every year. It is time to send out a message that sex is not a game and human life is to be respected. Jeong Jin Li |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the legality of abortions
Old value:: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Current: Abortion is allowed during the first and second trimesters.
Proposed: Abortion is allowed during the first trimester.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Policy of the government concerning the funding of abortions
Old value:: The government provides abortion funding only for low-income earners.
Current: The government provides funding for abortions.
Proposed: The government only funds abortions for medical emergencies.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:27:07, April 13, 2015 CET | From | 구월당 / Partido Septembrista | To | Debating the Abortion Bill, 3830 |
| Message | Señor Presidente, This is not so much a Kyo thing as a national Dankukin values thing. In a nation where the largest single religion is Selucian Patriarchalism, it would be best to remind ourselves that both traditional Kyo culture and the Hosian faith of many of our fellow citizens share a proper caution to abortion and in witness to those values, we will support this bill. Carla Bitao |
| Date | 01:27:21, April 13, 2015 CET | From | 구월당 / Partido Septembrista | To | Debating the Abortion Bill, 3830 |
| Message | Carla Bitao Minister for Health and Social Services |
| Date | 01:27:36, April 13, 2015 CET | From | Plaid Hôb / Partido de la esperanza | To | Debating the Abortion Bill, 3830 |
| Message | "How exactly is Mr Jeong going to fight sexual immorality or reduce the number of abortions preformed simply by banning late-term abortions? Wouldn't that only make women preform their abortions earlier? This seems to be little more than a symbolic gesture and not about respect for human life." Morganna Fahramar Headmistress of the Hope Party |
| Date | 01:30:06, April 13, 2015 CET | From | 구월당 / Partido Septembrista | To | Debating the Abortion Bill, 3830 |
| Message | Señor Presidente, I hope señora Fahramar will recognise this as a step in the right direction. The question is: will she admit it? Carla Bitao Minister for Health and Social Services |
| Date | 02:15:43, April 13, 2015 CET | From | Guglib Jeongchi Yeonhab | To | Debating the Abortion Bill, 3830 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I welcome the support of the two previous speakers for this Bill. Morganna Fahrarmar is of course correct; restricting abortion will not by itself improve sexual morality or increase respect for life, but it is, as the Minister of health pointed out, a step in the right direction. Jeong Jin Li Mr. Speaker, Given that the Dranianos and Draddwyr have such poor sexual morals and so little regard for the lives of their infants, I do not think it would be such a bad thing if we retained the current abortion law for those communities, whilst applying a new and stricter law to the more honourable Kyo. Any subsequent increase in the Kyo population relative to the Draniano and Draddwyr populations would be welcome. Song Gyeong Myeong (backbencher) |
| Date | 12:36:18, April 13, 2015 CET | From | Plaid Hôb / Partido de la esperanza | To | Debating the Abortion Bill, 3830 |
| Message | "Mr Siaradwr, Of course it is an improvement in the right direction, that we would support. I'm just questioning the intentions behind it." Morganna Fahramar "Mr Siaradwr, Gooks have always loved abortion, since in their religion - those slaughtered babies just reincarnate once again. It is we Hosians who have traditionally opposed it. Perhaps a more tolerant approach would be to retain abortion laws, for Kyos. Alternatively, we could give such people a one-way ticket to the Crownlands." Trystan Fahramar PH Parliamentary leader (and younger brother of Morganna) |
| Date | 13:22:15, April 13, 2015 CET | From | Guglib Jeongchi Yeonhab | To | Debating the Abortion Bill, 3830 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Trystan Fahrarmar presents an excellent case for why he and his ilk should be deported back to Northern Dovani where they belong. It is disgusting that the honourable Kyo should be so disparaged in their own parliament. Song Gyeong Meong (backbencher) |
| Date | 13:24:17, April 13, 2015 CET | From | Guglib Jeongchi Yeonhab | To | Debating the Abortion Bill, 3830 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I request that Trystan Fahrarmar should be required to apologise for describing the Kyo as "gooks". That is a highly disrespectful and racist term to use. Jeong Jin Lee (party chairman) |
| Date | 13:37:33, April 13, 2015 CET | From | 구월당 / Partido Septembrista | To | Debating the Abortion Bill, 3830 |
| Message | Uijangnim, I join Jinlee-ssi in his calls for an apology, but I insist that Gyeongmeong-ssi be required to apologise as well for his derogatory description. This way of affairs is exactly what is wrong with our country and why we've been in chaos for the past decades. It has to end now. This Assembly constitutionally belongs to all the people of Dankuk, and it has been this way even under the Kyodae. I will not stand for anyone feeling left out in its halls by the comments of their fellow countrymen. If Gyeongmeong-ssi and Señor Fahramar do not retract their disparaging remarks, I will move for censure. Prof. Eduardo Gyong-Jun Ryu (Septembrist - Gongmangdo University District) Convenor of the Government |
| Date | 13:57:50, April 13, 2015 CET | From | Guglib Jeongchi Yeonhab | To | Debating the Abortion Bill, 3830 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I will not and cannot alter the legitimate opinion I expressed, but to make it seem less personal, I will rephrase my statement to say that I wish all Draddwyr to be deported to Northern Dovani, not just Trystan Fahrarmar in particular. Song Gyeong Mong OOC: As the Kyo party player I probably ought to know this already, so excuse my ignorance...but can you explain the "Jinlee-ssi" and "Gyeongmeong-ssi" stuff for me? |
| Date | 14:00:19, April 13, 2015 CET | From | 구월당 / Partido Septembrista | To | Debating the Abortion Bill, 3830 |
| Message | OOC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_honorifics#Ssi |
| Date | 14:02:38, April 13, 2015 CET | From | 구월당 / Partido Septembrista | To | Debating the Abortion Bill, 3830 |
| Message | OOC: It should probably have been Songgyeongmong-ssi, actually. |
| Date | 15:15:48, April 13, 2015 CET | From | Guglib Jeongchi Yeonhab | To | Debating the Abortion Bill, 3830 |
| Message | OOC: Thanks, Martijn |
| Date | 15:29:47, April 13, 2015 CET | From | 구월당 / Partido Septembrista | To | Debating the Abortion Bill, 3830 |
| Message | Uijangnim, I do not consider Song Gyeong Mong's amendment of his offensive views to be at all satisfactory. Whilst I affirm the right of all those on this peninsula to hold their views, calling for the deportation of families who have lived here for centuries is inhumane and quite frankly disturbingly intolerant. Eduardo Ryu |
| Date | 18:41:55, April 13, 2015 CET | From | Coalición | To | Debating the Abortion Bill, 3830 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, To put it simply, this is a draconian move that will force thousands of woman to undergo dangerous, backstreet abortions that will put their lives at risk. Ángel Hernández Ortega, Co-leader (CP) |
| Date | 00:49:47, April 14, 2015 CET | From | Guglib Jeongchi Yeonhab | To | Debating the Abortion Bill, 3830 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I respect the Convenor's right to find my view "inhumane" and "quite frankly disturbingly intolerant", just as I hope he will respect my right to express my view in this assembly without being subjected to censorship. As for the CS spokesman, I wonder whether she has considered that abortions put the lives of babies at risk? It is regrettable, of course, that women sometimes die in backstreet abortions, but at least they had a choice over whether to put themselves in that danger. Babies who are aborted are given no choice whatsoever. Song Gyeong Mong (backbencher) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 750 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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