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Bill: A better Luthori V Act 3838
Details
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 3838
Description[?]:
| A better Luthori |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change
The government's policy regarding foreign investments.
Old value:: Foreign investors may freely invest in national companies.
Current: Foreign investors may freely invest in national companies.
Proposed: Foreign investors may invest in national companies, but may not get a majority share.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: Recognized religions are not taxed.
Current: No religions are taxed.
Proposed: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:04:57, April 29, 2015 CET | From | Luthori Imperial Party | To | Debating the A better Luthori V Act 3838 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The LIP oppose this bill. Not only could it pose a threat to our market potentials and restrict the free market, it is attempting to erode the religious integrity of the Empire. I yield. |
| Date | 12:14:33, April 29, 2015 CET | From | Forward | To | Debating the A better Luthori V Act 3838 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, " erode the religious integrity of the Empire." clearly you not do research, Churches not need profits to keep going, also this doesn't stop them for making profits, its tax the profits so that people not use religion as a get rich thing. Religion was never about the money when they started, they were used to help people reach enlightenment, but now-a-days people use them to make money and not be taxed on it. Article 1, explain how this poses a threat to our market potentials and restrict the free market please. I yield |
| Date | 12:57:46, April 29, 2015 CET | From | Choice | To | Debating the A better Luthori V Act 3838 |
| Message | We strongly favour this bill and shall vote yes. |
| Date | 17:47:50, April 29, 2015 CET | From | Forward | To | Debating the A better Luthori V Act 3838 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We ask which provisions Hosian Socialist Party are against. (It works both ways matey) I yield |
| Date | 18:12:29, April 29, 2015 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the A better Luthori V Act 3838 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I agree with the right honorable matey, it does work both ways. However, given the name of our party (the leading religion of Luthori) and our previous legislation regarding religion in general. Thus we oppose the 2nd article. I yield |
| Date | 18:29:27, April 29, 2015 CET | From | Forward | To | Debating the A better Luthori V Act 3838 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Given the fact that Religion has small Importance in the nation's opinions show that no one really cares about religion in this nation. "Matey" this doesn't go against religion, this stops people making profit from religion. I yield |
| Date | 21:52:03, April 29, 2015 CET | From | Choice | To | Debating the A better Luthori V Act 3838 |
| Message | Arch is completely and utterly right. Religion should not make profit, PLUS charitable donations are not taxed anyway. This proposal is more than fair. |
| Date | 22:15:09, April 29, 2015 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the A better Luthori V Act 3838 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I suggest that the candidates from Arch and Choice look at the opinion polls by region and then reconsider their stance about the importance of religion in our nation. This is antithetical to our history as a devoutly religious nation and the radicals, the communists, and the atheists are trying to destroy it! I yield |
| Date | 23:06:07, April 29, 2015 CET | From | Choice | To | Debating the A better Luthori V Act 3838 |
| Message | According to the opinions section on the nation's page, although the nation is closer inclined to fanatic than secular, the importance is small, thus religion is not at all a very important factor to the country, it's just a few radical right-wing parties trying to put emphasis on something which actually does not bother many people. |
| Date | 21:44:49, April 30, 2015 CET | From | Forward | To | Debating the A better Luthori V Act 3838 |
| Message | Mr Speaker It looks like the Candidates from Hosian Socialist Party can't read (*Arch candidates start laughing*) I yield |
| Date | 23:22:09, April 30, 2015 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the A better Luthori V Act 3838 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Instead of insulting our member's reading ability I suggest that the members of the opposition look at the preferences by region and then come back to the debate. I yield |
| Date | 23:45:15, April 30, 2015 CET | From | Forward | To | Debating the A better Luthori V Act 3838 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, We look at the nation as a whole, overall the importance is set as small (True fact). Granted regions have different opinions but the nation as whole has the opinion set as small. I yield |
| Date | 23:53:06, April 30, 2015 CET | From | Choice | To | Debating the A better Luthori V Act 3838 |
| Message | Here at Choice find it rather hypocritical that the same party which told our party to "go out and buy dictionaries" and calculators take offense at Arch insulting their reading abilities, despite the fact they have actually read the statistics wrong. |
| Date | 00:02:58, May 01, 2015 CET | From | Hosian Socialist Party | To | Debating the A better Luthori V Act 3838 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We insult the parties when they are wrong and confuse democracy and diplomacy. They claim that we cannot read because we say that religion is important for the people of Luthori. They look at the nation as a whole and insult us but little do they know that they are wrong. We have suggested many times that they look at preferences by region, which they clearly have not done. The region where the HSP won the most seats was in the Yodukan region. In the Yodukan the populace is deeply religious and the importance of religion is vital. No one is misreading anything, the HSP is simply representing the opinions of those who put more than half of our party members in office. This is our job. We ask that Choice and Arch admit to their ignorance of Yodukan and its people's opinions and understand our vote on this bill. I yield |
| Date | 00:13:12, May 01, 2015 CET | From | Forward | To | Debating the A better Luthori V Act 3838 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, "Arch and Choice look at the opinion polls by region and then reconsider their stance about the importance of religion in our nation" - A lovely quote from our friends at the Hosian Socialist Party. Lets look at this bit of that quote, "reconsider their stance about the importance of religion in our nation" The fact of the matter is that the nation's has a small opinion when it comes to a whole. Their are other regions and when all 5 of them are put together religion plays a small role (THIS IS A TRUE FACT!) I yield |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 25 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 19 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 61 |
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