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Bill: Laicism in Dundorf Proposal

Details

Submitted by[?]: Linke Bewegung (Adlerist-Federist)

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: March 3853

Description[?]:

Let's go further in our efforts to separate church and state!

1. It is important to track foreign missionaries to keep controls over missionaries that call for violence.

2. Public officials should leave their religion out of their workplace.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date10:16:03, May 28, 2015 CET
FromDie Alternative
ToDebating the Laicism in Dundorf Proposal
Message(1) There is no reason why foreign missionaries should be required to register with the Ministry. You say that you are trying to implement a policy of laïcité. Actually, article 1 is totally inconsistent with laïcité, because it involves the state directly in religious affairs. So the title of this bill is a complete misnomer.

The only justification for the proposal is that we need to take action against missionaries who call for violence. I think you will find that inciting violence is already against the law. Registration with the Ministry has no function in that connection.

(2) No harm arises from the wearing of religious symbols during the exercise of public duties. So long as people of any faith are allowed to wear their own religious symbols, there can be no objection to the effect that the state is somehow endorsing any particular religions.

- Florian Winter (culture spokesperson)

Date10:53:54, May 28, 2015 CET
FromRotkommunistische Partei (RKP)
ToDebating the Laicism in Dundorf Proposal
MessageWe think it's a good idea. The State has to be neutral, therefore, public officials cannot wear religious symbols, otherwise they aren't neutral anymore.

Date17:11:17, May 28, 2015 CET
FromGrüne Partei
ToDebating the Laicism in Dundorf Proposal
MessageWe believe in secular government for sure, but if officials want to wear religious symbols we see that as free expression

Date18:36:15, May 28, 2015 CET
FromLinke Bewegung (Adlerist-Federist)
ToDebating the Laicism in Dundorf Proposal
Message1. Exactly, foreign missionaries should register so we can better find those who do incite violence within the population. We would then also be able to deny entry to any missionaries that we know have called for violence in the past. This can only be done if they are registered so we know about them entering in the first place.

2. We disagree, religious articles have no place in the public sphere. Otherwise the very religious could put pressure on others to wear religious articles as well.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 141

no
  

Total Seats: 359

abstain
  

Total Seats: 95


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