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Bill: Nobility abolishment
Details
Submitted by[?]: Fluss/River SD Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 3865
Description[?]:
| This is a constitutional amendment to ban nobility. Since its an amendment, we´ve to debate about it and both parties need to agree. The point and single article is to ban nobility. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Titles of nobility.
Old value:: Titles of nobility may be granted by the government and any other political body designated by it.
Current: No titles of nobility are granted or recognised, their use is forbidden.
Proposed: No titles of nobility are granted or recognised, their use is forbidden.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:50:16, June 19, 2015 CET | From | Fluss/River SD Party | To | Debating the Nobility abolishment |
| Message | Why should nobility be recognised? Everybody is an equal indvidual. I hope that your party´s got a reason why we shouldnt ban it. |
| Date | 17:46:09, June 20, 2015 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Nobility abolishment |
| Message | We feel that exemplary service to the State or the the People should be recognized, and nobility, inherent in the very name, includes the concept of noble behavior. We do not hold that titles should be inherited, as the children of someone who performs a worthy service are no more likely to uphold that tradition than any other citizen; but the granting of a title commensurate with the action performed is well within the purview of the State. |
| Date | 22:07:13, June 20, 2015 CET | From | Fluss/River SD Party | To | Debating the Nobility abolishment |
| Message | We disagree. Exemplary service to the state, people or anything heroic shouldn't be recognised. People can be heroes, Fancy or helpful to the state but this still doesn't make them different from other homo sapiens and everyone should be equal. While it's true that some people are better than other but this still doesn't mean that they should be entitled by the state. |
| Date | 22:08:01, June 20, 2015 CET | From | Fluss/River SD Party | To | Debating the Nobility abolishment |
| Message | Nobility is medieval... |
| Date | 19:26:45, June 21, 2015 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Nobility abolishment |
| Message | By recognizing exemplary service, we encourage it n those who see the recognition it grants. Hereditary nobility is, agreed, of no value; the granting of Life Estate titles, however, shows the rest of the people a good example and the value of heroic behavior. |
| Date | 21:04:05, June 21, 2015 CET | From | Fluss/River SD Party | To | Debating the Nobility abolishment |
| Message | Nyet a good example can also come from a not noble human, hereditary nobility is not worth the talks because we both already disagree. And recognising exemplary achievements with noble titles does not help. The Govt already supports people with amazing abilities. A real world example: in the UK nobility is recognised, but it does not help, but the opposite. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |
| yes |
Total Seats: 133 | |
| no | Total Seats: 117 | |
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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