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Bill: NAL 3874/02 - Adulthood Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Grand Nationalist Fraction
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 3876
Description[?]:
| Our citizens are adult at quite young age. We propose to change the age at which one is adult to be altered to 16. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The age until which students, if education were to be compulsary, are required to be educated (limited between 16 and 21).
Old value:: 18
Current: 18
Proposed: 16
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The age at which a person is considered an adult (limited between 12 and 24).
Old value:: 18
Current: 18
Proposed: 16
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:50:50, July 10, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Progressive Alliance | To | Debating the NAL 3874/02 - Adulthood Bill |
| Message | M. Speaker, The ECA is in favour of article 1, but not article 2. Christine Malone Current Minister of Education and Culture |
| Date | 08:09:02, July 10, 2015 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the NAL 3874/02 - Adulthood Bill |
| Message | OOC: I have changed it to 16, since I want both articles to have the same age. Unfortunately, with education we cannot go under 16. My apologies for the inconvenience. |
| Date | 08:17:54, July 10, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Progressive Alliance | To | Debating the NAL 3874/02 - Adulthood Bill |
| Message | M. Speaker, In light of this change, the ECA now supports article 2, but not article 1. We believe the age a person is considered an adult should remain at 18. Christine Malone Current Minister of Education and Culture |
| Date | 10:13:32, July 10, 2015 CET | From | Metzian Party of Lodamun | To | Debating the NAL 3874/02 - Adulthood Bill |
| Message | M.Speaker, We will support the bill Tony leader of UDHFU |
| Date | 10:21:03, July 10, 2015 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the NAL 3874/02 - Adulthood Bill |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, our young citizens are being well prepared at school and have a fine physical condition. They seem ready to be considered adult at 16, maybe even at younger age. John Uyttebroeck NAL spokesman |
| Date | 03:33:41, July 13, 2015 CET | From | Social Labor Coalition | To | Debating the NAL 3874/02 - Adulthood Bill |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We cannot support this bill, as in most cases children are more responsible at a later age, and disbarring them from mandatory education at sixteen would be a disaster for our education system and our citizens' future. Thomas DeMay Minister of Education and Culture |
| Date | 17:26:44, July 13, 2015 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the NAL 3874/02 - Adulthood Bill |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, the real disaster for our citizens' future is the abolishment of compulsary military or national service. But that didn't seem to bother the government. Belinda Pelkmans spokesman on Culture for NAL |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 363 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 236 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: It is the collective responsibility of the players in a nation to ensure all currently binding RP laws are clearly outlined in an OOC reference bill in the "Bills under debate" section of the nation page. Confusion should not be created by displaying only some of the current RP laws or displaying RP laws which are no longer current. |
| Random quote: "In Germany they first came for the Communists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me--and by that time no one was left to speak up." - Pastor Martin Niemoller |