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Bill: Welfare Reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Justice and Reform Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 3876
Description[?]:
| We present to the Senate our attempt at welfare reform. All current pensions will be of course paid in full. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Guarantee of minimum income.
Old value:: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a very basic subsistence income by the government.
Current: All adults not supported by another person shall be guaranteed a reasonable, though not high, standard of living by the government.
Proposed: There shall be no direct cash payments to individuals to guarantee a minimum income.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state offers a voluntary public pension, combined with other voluntary private pensions.
Current: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Proposed: The state does not operate a pension system. Individuals must save up for retirement on their own.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:13:29, July 13, 2015 CET | From |  Liberal Party of Davostan | To | Debating the Welfare Reform |
| Message | We are currently in the between on this issue. Article 1. We can understand why a pension system can be seen as bad. But these people have reached a time of, not suffering. But nearing the ends of their lives (as sad as it is). They shouldn't be allowed the suffering of being without money. We should be making the lives of the elderly as joyful as possible for helping and serving this nation greatly. Article 2. We also understand the pain employers have to go through with this. But we feel that some form of minimum wage exists. If businesses are allowed to decide how to pay people, they could just ripe them off and not pay them at all. We cannot allow businesses to do this. We understand that not every business will attempt this, but its better to keep the current system them be later revolted by what happens. |
| Date | 19:16:24, July 13, 2015 CET | From | Justice and Reform Party | To | Debating the Welfare Reform |
| Message | Article 1. The pensioners contribute money either way. This would merely shift the weight to private organisations. Article 2. We have one of the highest minimum wages in Terra. Davostanian workers are privileged as is. |
| Date | 19:23:19, July 13, 2015 CET | From | State-Socialist Party | To | Debating the Welfare Reform |
| Message | We oppose article one for sure. |
| Date | 22:00:54, July 13, 2015 CET | From | Social Centrist Party | To | Debating the Welfare Reform |
| Message | Article 2: And when their savings are gone? what will happen then? sall we have pensioner beggars? They deserve Pensions they built up this country and we should give them highest respect for that. Im nor saying they are atomaticly ''better'' but they deserve to survive. |
| Date | 22:03:01, July 13, 2015 CET | From | State-Socialist Party | To | Debating the Welfare Reform |
| Message | We oppose this whole bill. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 93 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 332 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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