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Bill: Business and Entrepreneurial protection Act - 3878
Details
Submitted by[?]: Ukulondolozwa / Preservation
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 3879
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Employer's rights in regards to firing striking workers.
Old value:: Employers cannot fire workers who have gone on strike.
Current: Employers can fire workers who are deemed to have gone on strike without reasonable reasons.
Proposed: Employers can fire workers who are deemed to have gone on strike without reasonable reasons.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Secondary strike action.
Old value:: Any trade union can go on a sympathy strike in support of other striking workers.
Current: Secondary strike action is illegal. Workers and unions can only go on strike for their own pay and conditions.
Proposed: Secondary strike action is illegal. Workers and unions can only go on strike for their own pay and conditions.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on Democratic Workers' Councils.
Old value:: The government encourages the formation of Democratic Workers' Councils through subsidies and tax exemptions.
Current: The government does not intervene in the marketplace with regards to Democratic Workers' Councils.
Proposed: The government does not intervene in the marketplace with regards to Democratic Workers' Councils.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:49:50, July 19, 2015 CET | From | Sezenhlalo Caucus | To | Debating the Business and Entrepreneurial protection Act - 3878 |
| Message | The party members in the Sezenhlalo Caucus cannot support this. -- Kefilwe Bapai, Sezenhlalo Caucus Leader, National Party Leader |
| Date | 17:55:10, July 19, 2015 CET | From | Ukulondolozwa / Preservation | To | Debating the Business and Entrepreneurial protection Act - 3878 |
| Message | We already know that the Sezenhlalo Caucus is ought to destroy our countries economy and entrepreneurship. Bongani Zuma Ukulondolozwa Leader |
| Date | 17:59:02, July 19, 2015 CET | From | Sezenhlalo Caucus | To | Debating the Business and Entrepreneurial protection Act - 3878 |
| Message | We are all in one party. Let us not bash each other. -- Kefilwe Bapai, Sezenhlalo Caucus Leader, National Party Leader |
| Date | 18:07:16, July 19, 2015 CET | From | Ukulondolozwa / Preservation | To | Debating the Business and Entrepreneurial protection Act - 3878 |
| Message | Our Party should be more concerned about our economy. Without the right conditions and values we will only go backwards. We hope that other members within the party will be more open for supportive for our businesses and entrepreneurs. Bongani Zuma Ukulondolozwa Leader |
| Date | 18:12:42, July 19, 2015 CET | From | Sezenhlalo Caucus | To | Debating the Business and Entrepreneurial protection Act - 3878 |
| Message | The party is capable of managing the economy. The economy is doing well without foreigners and bourgeois scum telling us what to do. -- Kefilwe Bapai, Sezenhlalo Caucus Leader, National Party Leader |
| Date | 18:22:37, July 19, 2015 CET | From | Social-Liberal Caucus | To | Debating the Business and Entrepreneurial protection Act - 3878 |
| Message | Dear M. Zuma, The Social-Liberal faction is not as much closed at your ideals than the Caucus. However, our group recognizes a right to strike to the workers, a thing you seem to be far less warm than us to. If the article one of this bill could be removed, we could consider supporting it. It seems to us that you are right when you say that the economy greatly suffer from unending srikes. And this very much happens right now when the unions feel entitled to join every other union strike, thus greatly weakening our economy. We do not either specially wish to subsidise unions, since as we see it, they can stand for their own. So our ouly problem, as said above, is with the article one, which effectively makes striking illegals, since employers could fire syndicalists. This would be an inacceptable regress in the history of the worker's rights of Ibutho. Ziphozonke KaNathi, Social-Liberal candidate to the ministry of Trade and Industry |
| Date | 18:26:23, July 19, 2015 CET | From | Sezenhlalo Caucus | To | Debating the Business and Entrepreneurial protection Act - 3878 |
| Message | If the workers directly benefit or lose from a company's performance, instead of being included only through some detached wage system, they would understand that strikes are unproductive. This is why we must encourage the formation of Democratic Workers' Councils, where workers collectively own a business. When they work harder, they profit. When they do not work hard enough, they lose. -- Kefilwe Bapai, Sezenhlalo Caucus Leader, National Party Leader |
| Date | 18:27:27, July 19, 2015 CET | From | Ukulondolozwa / Preservation | To | Debating the Business and Entrepreneurial protection Act - 3878 |
| Message | Mr. Ziphozonke KaNathi It is clear that companies can not fire employees for fun just because they've been on strike. Yet we want to prevent useless strikes such as individual actions or useless strikes for just 5 minute longer coffee brakes. It can not that businesses should be hostages of the employees. Bongani Zuma Ukulondolozwa Leader |
| Date | 22:14:06, July 19, 2015 CET | From | Social-Liberal Caucus | To | Debating the Business and Entrepreneurial protection Act - 3878 |
| Message | Dear M. Zuma, As much as we understand what you are saying, we still see article 1 as impossible to support for us. Your intent may be to reduce "useless strikes", but the actual provision you are supporting says that employers can fire people without a reasonable reasons, which means they would be able to fire employees just because they went to strike. Since this bill is now put to vote, we have to oppose it, but we are looking forward to find some understanding with you in the future. Ziphozonke KaNathi, Social-Liberal candidate to the ministry of Trade and Industry of the National Party |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 299 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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