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Bill: Torture Reforms 3894
Details
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3895
Description[?]:
| Currently, the use of torture for obtaining information is never allowed. However we strongly believe that we should change this to suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital. This would save numerous lives. Why should we place the rights of a criminal who is withholding information that is endangering people's lives over the rights and lives of innocent victims? Torture should be used only as a last resort and only when the information being withheld is absolutely vital to saving people's lives. We shouldn't apply it too often but we should have the option there as a very last resort. Because of our current laws on the matter, innocent people have died because our government is prohibiting the torture of some dangerous people withholding life saving information. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: Torture is never allowed.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: Suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 03:37:53, August 21, 2015 CET | From | Liberal League | To | Debating the Torture Reforms 3894 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The Liberal League will never vote in favor of any torture techniques. People will say anything when under torture, leading to misinformation that could actually cause innocent deaths. Karley Power Liberal League Leader |
| Date | 10:40:13, August 21, 2015 CET | From | Choice | To | Debating the Torture Reforms 3894 |
| Message | Mr Speaker So you would rather we sit on our behinds and do nothing? We'll be taking this by a case by case basis, and apply common sense. Of course they could be lying, that's why our police wouldn't just walk in, they'd prepare and be prepared. Usif Kahn MP Choice Shadow Minister of Defence |
| Date | 17:11:59, August 21, 2015 CET | From |  Liberal Party of Hutori | To | Debating the Torture Reforms 3894 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker Considering the severity of this proposal we will be vpting against this. However only so that a more detailed Bill can be written for the regulation of "enhanced interrogation techniques." William Payne CPH Internal Affairs Critic MP for Carter City Suburbs |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 204 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 211 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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