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Bill: Projekt ustawy o efektywnym systemie prawa
Details
Submitted by[?]: Partia Moralistyczna Postępowa
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3902
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's position towards the use of forensic DNA databases.
Old value:: Only DNA from persons convicted of crime is recorded.
Current: No DNA is recorded.
Proposed: DNA from persons accused or convicted for a crime is recorded.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy on inheritance
Old value:: There are no regulated inheritance laws, inheritance is only regulated by the will of deceased.
Current: There are no regulated inheritance laws, inheritance is only regulated by the will of deceased.
Proposed: There is a regulated inheritance law, private regulation of inheritance is allowed but also regulated.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Right to privacy.
Old value:: Individuals have a right to privacy, to keep records and information for themselves.
Current: Individuals have a right to privacy, but the courts can force individuals to give information on certain matters if needed. (also known as Habeas Data).
Proposed: Individuals have a right to privacy, but the courts can force individuals to give information on certain matters if needed. (also known as Habeas Data).
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government provision of legal aid to the accused.
Old value:: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state for defendants with low incomes.
Current: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state for defendants with low incomes.
Proposed: Legal representation for defendants in criminal trials is paid for by the state.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:22:04, September 04, 2015 CET | From | Conquest Party of Valruzia | To | Debating the Projekt ustawy o efektywnym systemie prawa |
| Message | We approve of article 2, and would consider article 3. Article 1 is an unneeded invasion of personal liberty. You are innocent until proven guilty and if you are innocent, then the government has no right to access your DNA without approval from that person. Article 4 will lower the quality of legal defense and would reqire taxpayers to pay for attorneys for people who are perfectly capable of providing their own defense. Also this will remove a deterrant to commiting crimes. People are more likely to avoid commiting crimes if they know that they will have to pay for their own defense. |
| Date | 01:49:00, September 05, 2015 CET | From | Partia Moralistyczna Postępowa | To | Debating the Projekt ustawy o efektywnym systemie prawa |
| Message | If legal defense will be of a "lower quality" as you claim, then people would avoid committing crimes due to a higher risk of getting convicted, following your argument as you have presented it. Proper legal defense is not a privilege, but a personal right in society where laws govern the masses, a circumstance which is unavoidable lest we descend into the Palaeolithic. Reanalyze the relationships between Articles 1, 2, and 4 with Article 3, and you will perhaps understand the cohesion of the bill. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 12 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 63 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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