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Bill: Labour Bargaining Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: 疑古派/Yígǔpaì (Yigu Faction)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 3925
Description[?]:
| An act to restore and promote the rights of workers across Indrala of the right to coalesce and fight for their own justice and fair treatment |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Collective bargaining
Old value:: No employees may engage in collective bargaining
Current: Public and private sector employees have the right to collectively bargain
Proposed: Public and private sector employees have the right to collectively bargain
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Employer's rights in regards to firing striking workers.
Old value:: Employers are free to fire workers who go on strike.
Current: Employers can fire workers who are deemed to have gone on strike without reasonable reasons.
Proposed: Government approval is needed before strikers can be fired.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The workers' right to strike.
Old value:: All strikes are illegal.
Current: All workers have the right to strike.
Proposed: All workers have the right to strike but certain categories of workers regarded as critical to society have to ensure a minimal service.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards labor unions.
Old value:: Trade unions are illegal.
Current: Trade unions may exist and worker membership is voluntary.
Proposed: Trade unions may exist and worker membership is voluntary.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:23:56, October 19, 2015 CET | From | 疑古派/Yígǔpaì (Yigu Faction) | To | Debating the Labour Bargaining Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The Yigu Faction calls for the protection of our subjects and our people. The Imperial Court and the Emperor, with the Mandate of Heaven, must seek to act with compassion and benevolence and aid the suffering workers in our midst, seeking to promote and uplift their welfare. We implore for this bill to be passed to serve the needs of the Indralan workers. Yuan Ling |
| Date | 19:42:24, October 19, 2015 CET | From | 姬恩黨 (Jien Faction) 🌄 | To | Debating the Labour Bargaining Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The Central Government would like to see what the workers need to be protected from? Due to our policy of "wu wei" in economics, the government is allowing for the market, which to us, ultimately means the people, to regulate themselves in the best way possible to ensure that the government does not profit. There is, however, nothing in the Jienist classics that prevent the government from interfering in the economy when the interests of the government are not at stake regarding profits. Should there be evidence of workers needing government protection, then the Jien Faction will be supporting this motion. However, certain edits would have to be made regarding Articles 1 and 2. Government officials should not have the right to collectively bargain. They are accorded the highest status in the land, some of the highest salaries, and are paid by the public. Negotiating for public monies, simply by threatening the government, therefore the nation, with disruption of state activities, is immoral and anti-meritocratic. As for Article 2, requiring government approval before every fire for a worker on strike could potentially lead to corruption, where unions or employers could pay government officials to act in their favor. I yield. |
| Date | 19:50:21, October 19, 2015 CET | From | 疑古派/Yígǔpaì (Yigu Faction) | To | Debating the Labour Bargaining Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We thank the officials from the Jienpai Faction for their comments. We believe, however, that government employees should be entitled to the ability to call for and campaign for better wages. We do not consider it greed, Mr. Speaker, for government workers to simply wish for higher wages, and it would be erroneous to assume that state workers are always paid sufficient wages. It is not threatening because workers who strike forfeit their workers for the period of time during which they strike, so it is a sacrifice and forbearance on their part as well. As for Article 2, the Yigu Faction believes that in a perfect scenario, employers should never be allowed to fire striking workers, but we compromised because we were unsure of the beliefs of the officials in the Jienpai Faction. Yuan Ling |
| Date | 20:20:53, October 19, 2015 CET | From | 姬恩黨 (Jien Faction) 🌄 | To | Debating the Labour Bargaining Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The government is subservient to the people. We cannot make the government subservient to us. Government service is, sometimes, a sacrifice. This sacrifice is not made in vain, for the people can only benefit. Allowing the possibility for government workers, due to their desire to have a higher wage, allows for tax increases without end. Taxes must be low to ensure the prosperity of the people. We simply cannot support government worker strikes. Ultimately, that is not meritocratic. If workers are on strike because they want more pay for a job they do not perform well, should an employer not have the right to fire a striking worker? I yield. |
| Date | 20:26:26, October 19, 2015 CET | From | 疑古派/Yígǔpaì (Yigu Faction) | To | Debating the Labour Bargaining Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, The arguments we would raise to thw Jien Faction are that workers who strike for better wages strike in the hopes of receiving a higher wage for their families and households. They must forgo pay during that period of time, so it is also a sacrifice on the part of the workers, which they would not undertake lightly. Employers should not have the right to fire a striking worker because it would effectively cow workwrs into silence and destroy the ability of any workers to band together and collectively bargain for better working conditions, and that would fundamentally disempower the working-classes. Yuan Ling |
| Date | 20:54:23, October 19, 2015 CET | From | 姬恩黨 (Jien Faction) 🌄 | To | Debating the Labour Bargaining Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We simply cannot support restricting an employer from making a decision that can ensure long term prosperity. The market should be taking care of worker issues. I yield. |
| Date | 20:57:57, October 19, 2015 CET | From | 疑古派/Yígǔpaì (Yigu Faction) | To | Debating the Labour Bargaining Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We respect the Jien Faction's commitment to the market, although we firmly believe the state is called to intervene in this matter. With nothing else we suggest we will place this bill to voting. Yuan Ling. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |
| no |
Total Seats: 75 | |
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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