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Bill: Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations
Details
Submitted by[?]: Liberal Party of Davostan
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 3932
Description[?]:
| Prologue: The Telamon parties have insulted our nation, and basically threatened war if we "don't comply". We find this attitude disgraceful, and unwarranted. Out of disquest to these insults, we demand that the Telamon-Davostan relations to be disbanded, we will not be seen as eachothers ally, but neutral nations. Proof: Date 17:01:42, November 02, 2015 CET From Chauvinistisk Parti för Telamons (CPT) To Federal Republic of Davostan Message Your nation is weak, and you do not have the strength we do. Your government is tiny, and your financial unit is much less valuable than ours. We have a much larger military, and we might protect you if you would like. Contact our nation if you would like to establish diplomatic relations. We are your neighbors, and you better be friendly to us. Valter Kron, Minister of Foreign Affairs of Telamons Forenta Stater Date 18:48:58, November 02, 2015 CET From Chauvinistisk Parti för Telamons (CPT) To Federal Republic of Davostan Message On our continent, we have three countries. The Federal Republic of Davostan, the Federal Republic of Hutori, and Telamons Förenta Stater are these countries. We have various treaties and agreements and trade deals among us, and we feel that these deals are not beneficial for us. Members of the legislature are considering withdrawal from these bad deals for a variety of reasons. First off, these deals are complicated and bureaucratic by nature. Second off, we feel like our defence budget is too large in comparison to the other nations. These nations will force us to provide military support for countries that are attacked because of our treaties. All the nations have a similar budget size (because of how the exchange rate works), and here is the percent of each budget that is focussed on defence: Telamons Förenta Stater: 48% Federal Republic of Davostan: 2% Federal Republic of Hutori: 18% It is evident that Telamons Förenta Stater has the largest military, and it's not even close. We should withdraw from all foreign relations with these countries unless they provide us with services that benefit us. Your countries will become defenceless in these dangerous times, and we fear that you will suffer. We do not plan on ending our imperialism and military strength, as it gives us strength around Terra. Beware, though, respond to our nation's message feed and to our Minister of Defence and Minister of Foreign Affairs, as we need to negotiate. You will be vulnerable to terrorists, and we are okay with that if you aren't benefiting us in way. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 09:52:49, November 03, 2015 CET | From |  United Democratic Action Party | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | Support. Down with Telamon!! |
| Date | 10:08:35, November 03, 2015 CET | From | United Democratic Action Party | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | If these threats continue, we might have to declare war |
| Date | 10:11:04, November 03, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Party of Davostan | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | Lets not go that far just yet. We are only loosening our ties with the Telamon for the moment, due to their actions. We're not declaring any war as of yet. |
| Date | 12:28:42, November 03, 2015 CET | From | NWOIAUCFCCNUCDMFSatanilicRepublicanParty | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | You may not like their attitude (myself included), but they are right. This is the weakest that Davostag has ever been. A sad fact indeed. Davostag used to rule Makon. Telmon and Hutori used to be Davostag's bitches. This would of never happened if I was still emperor. But all no, you bastards had to kick me off my throne and tear down the almighty Unholy Davostag Empire and look what it has done. It has made us extremely weak, and I'm in a chronic depression over it... Former Unholy Emperor & Current Black Pope: Lord Medivh Evil |
| Date | 13:44:19, November 03, 2015 CET | From | Chauvinistisk Parti för Telamons (CPT) | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | Your military is an absolute joke, and you force us to take all the responsibility to defend this continent. Your nation does not care about its people, but I guess you are just Davostan, and your people aren't as great. We don't care if you disband relations with us, and we hope that you'll be fine defending yourself. Valter Kron, Foreign Affairs Minister |
| Date | 14:13:06, November 03, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Party of Davostan | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | "...you force us to take all the responsibility to defend this continent." Name when we have done this? " Your nation does not care about its people" Says the country that taxes the shit out of its people. "and we hope that you'll be fine defending yourself" From what? We've had no enemies for a very long time. |
| Date | 16:28:20, November 03, 2015 CET | From | Chauvinistisk Parti för Telamons (CPT) | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | If an enemy arises, you will be helpless. We tax our people to pay for our military! You have a tiny government with no strength or stability. We have a government that probably is too strong, but we have stability. Your country is weak, and we are strong. Valter Kron, Foreign Affairs Minister |
| Date | 16:51:41, November 03, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Party of Davostan | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | Maybe you should stop insulting our nation, and get on with yours. |
| Date | 16:56:21, November 03, 2015 CET | From | Chauvinistisk Parti för Telamons (CPT) | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | We are merely stating facts. |
| Date | 18:14:52, November 03, 2015 CET | From | Justice and Reform Party | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | We think that a cooldown in relations is preferable to a war. |
| Date | 23:07:51, November 03, 2015 CET | From | Co-Operative Party | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | Telamon is ignorant of the modern world. No sane nation would stand for an invasion of a modern liberal country suh as Davostan. |
| Date | 00:17:21, November 04, 2015 CET | From | Justice and Reform Party | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | We urge the Senate to be calm with its criticisms. |
| Date | 03:10:12, November 04, 2015 CET | From | Chauvinistisk Parti för Telamons (CPT) | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | We are concerned that our citizens are being taxed to defend a continent that you haven't defended one squat for the past 100 years. We spend 76 times as much money as you on defence (when adjusted for exchange rate). You owe us in goods or something, or we will choose not to protect you. Your nation has an unreasonable economic system with your only monetary focus being protecting the environment. Our nation has stability, you have a satanic party. |
| Date | 09:56:13, November 04, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Party of Davostan | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | Changed my mind. I want to know the Telamon general opinion of the situation first. I want to know if the legislative there recognises and supports the CPT actions. |
| Date | 10:35:46, November 04, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Party of Davostan | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | I have managed to get a party in Telamon to start an open discussion on the events. This'll allow us to resolve them diplomatically and quickly. This bill is no longer necessary for the time being. If the discussion does fail however, we will vote yes on this again. |
| Date | 10:49:07, November 04, 2015 CET | From | United Democratic Action Party | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | And when will this open discussion be created? |
| Date | 10:50:39, November 04, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Party of Davostan | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | When the party gets home :D |
| Date | 17:44:37, November 04, 2015 CET | From | Chauvinistisk Parti för Telamons (CPT) | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | We have not had an open discussion on the situation. |
| Date | 23:47:53, November 04, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Party of Davostan | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | We've started setting up the foundations for a discussion hosted in Davostan, invited are the Hutori and Telamon elected representatives. We asked Telamons largest party to open a Telamon discussion on the issue. |
| Date | 16:51:33, November 09, 2015 CET | From | Chauvinistisk Parti för Telamons (CPT) | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | We are the largest party, and we do not want to discuss this. |
| Date | 17:01:11, November 09, 2015 CET | From | Liberal Party of Davostan | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | Largest party, but you don't own the majority seat. |
| Date | 01:06:52, November 10, 2015 CET | From | Davostan Socialist Party | To | Debating the Disband Davostan-Telamon Relations |
| Message | CPT has demonstrated an inability to maintain a stable relationship between Davostan and Telamon. These tensions are not entirely unwarranted, and it is admirable to see the disbanding of these toxic relations. However, a cool-down is necessary. Ramping up tensions will achieve little, and we cannot afford to jeopardise our nation's finances for the sake of paranoia. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 384 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 75 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 41 |
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