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Bill: Business Freedom Act 3934

Details

Submitted by[?]: Davostan Socialist Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: March 3935

Description[?]:

A bill to give greater freedoms and liberties to businesses, small and large alike, by providing them with the ability to monopolise if that is their will.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date11:52:46, November 08, 2015 CET
From Davostan Socialist Party
ToDebating the Business Freedom Act 3934
MessageIt is important for the government to ensure businesses are at the liberty to expand. That is capitalism.

Date15:01:52, November 08, 2015 CET
From Liberal Party of Davostan
ToDebating the Business Freedom Act 3934
MessageWhat a great debate we had. Monopolies should be banned as they can become extremely large, demanding and powerful. A market controller can increase prices, limit supply to increase demand and price and become more powerful than the government.

Date04:19:49, November 09, 2015 CET
From Davostan Socialist Party
ToDebating the Business Freedom Act 3934
MessageNo point of debate with the Davostan Nationalist Front. All we hear from your side is inadequately outrageous nationalistic sentiment. What is clear is that the DNF does not care for economic and business liberties, and the people of Davostan shall remember this treacherous action of the DNG come 3938. Shame! Shame! SHAME!

Date04:25:19, November 09, 2015 CET
From United Democratic Action Party
ToDebating the Business Freedom Act 3934
MessageDLP, if you are to attack the DNF, we will exclude you from the Cabinet. We want no more conflicts between parties.

Date10:29:37, November 09, 2015 CET
From Davostan Socialist Party
ToDebating the Business Freedom Act 3934
MessageConflict is the essence of democracy and is innately liberal, UDAP. But I yield, for the sake of our alliance.

Date10:39:24, November 09, 2015 CET
From Liberal Party of Davostan
ToDebating the Business Freedom Act 3934
MessageIf you support monopolies, please explain how they benefit the people and the economy.

Date11:49:13, November 09, 2015 CET
From Davostan Socialist Party
ToDebating the Business Freedom Act 3934
MessageDNF, my concern is not with the specifics of monopolies. My concern is with government involvement. I do not believe that the government should involve itself in managing and 'breaking up' businesses that are acting lawfully. In doing so, there are freedoms being removed from individuals and businesses who are ultimately building our nation.

As for monopolies, if they are providing a service to the consumer which is of high quality, people will purchase products from the monopoly in question. If their service is lacklustre, people will not purchase their products (in a free market, there are always alternatives). What seems to be forgotten here is that consumers still maintain the power and control in a scenario with monopolies and can dictate demand if necessary.

The government should not be in the business of breaking up lawful business and taking away an individual's freedom of lawful business. This is capitalism.

Date11:53:40, November 09, 2015 CET
From Liberal Party of Davostan
ToDebating the Business Freedom Act 3934
MessageYes, but a monopoly controls or owns the entire market, meaning they have the ability to manipulate the market in their own way. If a monopoly owns a market, there is no other choice and therefore the free market choice you proclaim is gone. If a monopoly controls a market, they can change the prices to whether they please, forcing their purchasers to pay extortionate prices.

If monopolies don't exist, there will be no business that can fully control a market meaning there are multiple businesses which'll allow the free market choice to exist. There'll be no business who controls a market meaning prices will be greatly lower and cheaper for both the consumer and other businesses.

I do believe that businesses and capitalism is a good idea. But I will not permit any business to have a position of power that they'll be able to manipulate and control a market. You claim that the consumer has the choice, but if there is only 1 business, do they have a choice?

Date12:15:04, November 09, 2015 CET
From Davostan Socialist Party
ToDebating the Business Freedom Act 3934
MessageI understand your reasoning, but in a truly laissez-faire free market, consumers still maintain choices. Furthermore, if a service/product supplied by a monopoly is sold at a higher price (as you say, extortionate prices), any free individual is not only at the liberty to establish a competing business but is incentivised by the consumer's demand for a better, more affordable product. That's the beauty of free market capitalism. It's entirely self-regulating.

Ask yourself, how are monopolies are actually established? They simply provide a superior product to their competitors that consumers prefer, hence defeat competitors in the market. What incentive is there for an entrepreneur or company to provide a better product to consumers (and inadvertently beating competition) to only be broken up when some bureaucrat considers them 'too big'? It removes the incentive and simply establishes unnecessary government interference in a system that can entirely self regulate.

Date12:20:41, November 09, 2015 CET
From Liberal Party of Davostan
ToDebating the Business Freedom Act 3934
MessageDamn, you changed my mind on monopolies, well done.

Date12:24:39, November 09, 2015 CET
From Davostan Socialist Party
ToDebating the Business Freedom Act 3934
MessageWow. I'm surprised to hear that. Thanks! Welcome to the free market club!

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
     

Total Seats: 324

no
 

Total Seats: 176

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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