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Bill: Efficient Distribution of Pornography Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Uleroth Liberation Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: March 2173

Description[?]:

We have legal pornography, and yet our mail system is so cockamamie that the leaders of the ULA have repeatedly protested that their nudey magazines have shown up with pages torn out, nasty stains, and a seal saying 'inspected by the justice department'

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date13:34:58, January 16, 2006 CET
FromVBS Party
ToDebating the Efficient Distribution of Pornography Act
MessageNo w

Date15:05:52, January 16, 2006 CET
FromSelucian Sovereignty Party
ToDebating the Efficient Distribution of Pornography Act
MessageI'm opposed to both measures.

I fought hard to keep our nationalised post office. However, I was ultimately defeated. I do not believe that a post office is an essential public work here in the 22nd century, and don't think it would be in our best interest to spend precious resources on re-nationalizing the post office.

I don't like the first option either. For law enforcement purposes, once there is grounded cause (presumably with authorization and a warrant from a court), police ought to be able to look at someone's letters. This should not be something that is done in the normal course, but with grounded cause, supported by an order ofthe court. This provides a balance between individual privacy rights and collective security rights.

Date20:27:10, January 16, 2006 CET
FromUleroth Liberation Party
ToDebating the Efficient Distribution of Pornography Act
MessageNationalization removed. As for letter opening, we believe that grounded cause is too low of a standard. That means, roughly, that if the justice dept has some reasonable belief that the letter is evidence of a crime, it could open it - that could justifiably include millions of innocent pieces of mail every single day. And since it covers every single crime, that could mean justice dept. involvement in getting letters of jaywalking or fraudulent sales of girl scout cookies. Extreme situations would limit involvement to where they reasonably believe that the letter is evidence of a serious crime, such as an act of terrorism or mass murder, that would truly be a national emergency. Short of that, our police should use normal investigative procedures. Besides, with unregulated telecommunications available, none of the good criminals that are capable of truly horrific deeds would communicate by old-fashioned letter anyway.

Date20:47:06, January 16, 2006 CET
FromSelucian Sovereignty Party
ToDebating the Efficient Distribution of Pornography Act
MessageI'll support the amended bill, based on ULP's persuasive argument.

Date01:10:41, January 17, 2006 CET
FromSelucian Liberty Party
ToDebating the Efficient Distribution of Pornography Act
MessageULP, the option we have now usually means you have to have a search warrent, which is perfectly legitimate.

Date01:52:33, January 17, 2006 CET
FromUleroth Liberation Party
ToDebating the Efficient Distribution of Pornography Act
MessageRight - getting a search warrant requires that there be a reasonable belief on the part of the police that the letter is evidence of a crime. My point is that this standard is too low - see above.

Date12:15:32, January 17, 2006 CET
FromImperial Party of Selucian
ToDebating the Efficient Distribution of Pornography Act
MessageThe current law is working well.
WE oppose this new proposal.

Date21:57:43, January 17, 2006 CET
FromEconomic Development Party
ToDebating the Efficient Distribution of Pornography Act
Messageif opening someones mail will help stop crime, we should alow it.

as to your argument that things happen to inicent peaces of mail, it might get opened, but if nobody finds anything, it will get sent back into the mail.

this law does NOT harm inocent mail, and it helps us fight crime. i will vote no on this bill

Date22:46:42, January 17, 2006 CET
FromSelucian Sovereignty Party
ToDebating the Efficient Distribution of Pornography Act
MessageIt is an unreasonable invasion of privacy. It harms privacy and the sanctity of individuals who have done nothing wrong.

Date00:09:06, January 18, 2006 CET
FromSelucian Liberty Party
ToDebating the Efficient Distribution of Pornography Act
Message"Right - getting a search warrant requires that there be a reasonable belief on the part of the police that the letter is evidence of a crime. My point is that this standard is too low - see above."

Mail-searching is completely legitimate for crimes like theft, fraud and especially drug laws.

Date03:02:18, January 18, 2006 CET
FromSelucian Sovereignty Party
ToDebating the Efficient Distribution of Pornography Act
MessageDo we have any drug laws?

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 149

no
     

Total Seats: 426

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    Total Seats: 0


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