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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of March 2172
Details
Submitted by[?]: Seosavists Republican party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 2172
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the Seosavists Republican party
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Social Calvinist Unionist Party
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Covenanters (IA)
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Redneck Party
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Social Calvinist Unionist Party
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Covenanters (IA)
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Redneck Party
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Catholic Peoples Party
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Social Calvinist Unionist Party
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Seosavists Republican party
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Covenanters (IA)
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Luthori Green Party
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Redneck Party
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:59:14, January 16, 2006 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2172 |
| Message | We're no longer happy with the current government. |
| Date | 22:48:09, January 16, 2006 CET | From | Free White Castle and The People Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2172 |
| Message | A coalition of the left and right excluding the middle. Interesting, but of course there is no justification to put you in charge of any government. |
| Date | 23:50:01, January 16, 2006 CET | From | Free White Castle and The People Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2172 |
| Message | You are voting a party solely designed to oppose you in charge of government? Boy you sure are a whore for cabinet spots. |
| Date | 23:50:44, January 16, 2006 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2172 |
| Message | You've no claim to the centre ground. You're the worst extremist here! |
| Date | 23:52:25, January 16, 2006 CET | From | Free White Castle and The People Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2172 |
| Message | How am I an extremist? Look at my ratings, the only thing I am to one side on is Secularism and that is about to change. |
| Date | 23:58:39, January 16, 2006 CET | From | Free White Castle and The People Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2172 |
| Message | GHI would these be more of your famed consistancy in action? |
| Date | 23:59:20, January 16, 2006 CET | From | Free White Castle and The People Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2172 |
| Message | (I know it isn't your proposal GHI, I meant consistancy w/in Luthori in general). |
| Date | 00:32:30, January 17, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2172 |
| Message | I'm guessing I'm GHI, but to be honest, we have a long history of placing both sides of politics within the cabinet. My only gripe is that I didn't get the environment, but I'm willing to forgo that for now. |
| Date | 01:50:04, January 17, 2006 CET | From | Free White Castle and The People Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2172 |
| Message | well looks like the Right will be back in power. |
| Date | 02:31:09, January 17, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2172 |
| Message | Yep, with NPH at its head. |
| Date | 02:51:47, January 17, 2006 CET | From | Free White Castle and The People Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2172 |
| Message | NPH was forced to move to the right by the inconsistant position of the left. This mish-mash cabinet proposal was the last straw for NPH, the left in this country is weak and poorly organized, NPH was giving the direction and then they betrayed him. NPH will ensure the left never again sees power in Luthori. |
| Date | 03:01:39, January 17, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2172 |
| Message | The left were not weak, inconsistent, or poorly organised, they just didn't see why a right-wing newbie should be giving them directions. There was no betrayal, as betrayal, as a form of deception, is the violation of a social contract (trust, confidence) that produces moral and psychological conflict within a relationship between individuals, organisations, or individuals and organisations. There was no social contract, as you were not a member of the left-wing coalition, due to their right-wing stance. |
| Date | 03:14:11, January 17, 2006 CET | From | Free White Castle and The People Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2172 |
| Message | Oh, so it was you that got all the liberalized laws passed? As for your social contract theory all I say is HA! You were getting the laws you wanted passed, but no more. The left will contiinue to die on the vine as NPH emerges as even a greater power. To call NPH a newbie simply demonstrates that you are out of touch w/ the average Luthori voter. |
| Date | 03:53:15, January 17, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2172 |
| Message | You, liberal you wanted to arm the police with military-grade weapons. Now that I think about it, maybe this is just a case of cultural differences, as America has a political spectrum where their left-wing would be considered right-wing or centrist by the rest of the world. |
| Date | 04:08:05, January 17, 2006 CET | From | Free White Castle and The People Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2172 |
| Message | Hmmm, I wonder how much time you have spent studying the American political spectrum. There are fundemental differences in a bi-cameral vis-a-vis a mulit-cameral system, as for how far left our leftists are I think you are confused or simply uniformed. I am rather centrist, but that is because I am a pragmatist. As for military grade weapons for police, I like SWAT teams. America also has a different attitude towards guns, that might have something to do w/ the fact that many people here like myself, grew up going hunting. |
| Date | 04:21:54, January 17, 2006 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2172 |
| Message | 1. I have studied it for years. 2. You are not the only nation to have a bi-caramel legislature, the others seem to do well in being left-wing. 3. I am neither confused or uninformed. 4. Do you know what the S stands for in SWAT, special, as in not for all police. 5. Why do gun-totting Americans (not all Americans love guns) use the hunting excuse for every gun, surely the pistols and some small rifles would be enough. Do you really need assualt rifles to hunt? |
| Date | 04:38:01, January 17, 2006 CET | From | Free White Castle and The People Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2172 |
| Message | If you have studied it then you are distributely miscontruing it. American politics is extremely complex due to the size of our country, the Democratic Party in South Dakota is very conservative; however, the same party is very liberal in Rhode Island. Most theorists believe that in a bicameral legislature parties end up close to the middle, the incentive for this is obvious although I forget the name of the theorist who originally proposed it. I don't remember seeing a party of the far left ever doing well in an election in a bicameral system. I like SWAT and would like all police to be similarly equiped. I said that hunting fosters an attitude towards guns which stems from hunting. You grow up around guns and you learn to respect them but not fear them, this culture does not only extend to shotguns but all guns. You also don't use pistols to hunt, those are mainly for self defense. Assault rifles are not needed or applicable to hunting, although a great deal of fun to shoot on a range and very helpful in asserting your rights. |
| Date | 04:39:16, January 17, 2006 CET | From | Free White Castle and The People Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2172 |
| Message | That word up there was supposed to be deliberately not distributely which to my knowledge is not a word. |
| Date | 04:41:22, January 17, 2006 CET | From | Free White Castle and The People Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of March 2172 |
| Message | On the bright side, STG no longer has to be a part of the government he was sick of as a result of this proposal, even though it didn't pass. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 283 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 467 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Treaties will be eligible for deletion if they are more than 50 in-game years old and have no currently ratified members. |
| Random quote: "In America today, you can murder land for private profit. You can leave the corpse for all to see, and nobody calls the cops." - Paul Brooks |