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Bill: Space for the People

Details

Submitted by[?]: LibCom Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: March 2068

Description[?]:

Space exploration will encourage technological development and make important contributions to our knowledge of our environment.

It is imperative that this be kept in the hands of the people. Space must not be opened up to commercial exploitation.

We therefore resolve that a national space research agency be established.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date21:39:16, May 21, 2005 CET
From Protectorate Party
ToDebating the Space for the People
MessageDoes Arthur Andersen do your accounting?
The government can only practically invest in limited areas. Considering the size of our social programs we think it more resonable to limit the government's funding of space programs perhaps even a revenue stream for our government.
The acess to information gained by this industry can be a requirement of the licensing process, if that is a major concern.

Date19:24:32, May 22, 2005 CET
FromRadical Centrists
ToDebating the Space for the People
MessageWe are satisfied with the current regulations We certainly do not feel that any public funds should be put towards a venture that is an exercise in futility and would divert funds away from services that are more deserving.

That said, we do not support handing over space property rights to profit-motivated enterprises with no obligation consider the the ethical consequences of their actions.

We would support the establishment of a GLOBAL agency to supervise the exploration of space. However, we see no need for our Federation to participate. Let us focus on our own territories here on this planet and leave space exploration for those nations that feel that such escapades will inflate their own sense of worth.

Date10:30:19, May 25, 2005 CET
From Free Reform Coalition (FRP)
ToDebating the Space for the People
Messagecan we make it open to anyone? that would be neat, there would be space hotels, exploration that wasn't government controlled, much better.

Date10:30:53, May 25, 2005 CET
From Free Reform Coalition (FRP)
ToDebating the Space for the People
MessageOOC: by the way the title of this bill reminds me of lebensraum for some reason, you may want to change it

Date15:26:57, May 26, 2005 CET
FromLibCom Party
ToDebating the Space for the People
MessageOOC: Heh! I quite like the lebensraum reference. In an ironic way, of course.

Date15:34:40, May 26, 2005 CET
FromLibCom Party
ToDebating the Space for the People
MessageI think a free-for-all is out of the question. There needs to be some regulation, if only for safety reasons.

We would of course join the RCP in supporting the establishment of a global space agency. However, we feel that it is important that we participate actively in such an agency, so that we can influence its direction and try to prevent military and capitalist exploitation of space. In order to do that, we need to set up our own agency first, even if its budget is small (and it would certainly not be a high priority in terms of government research spending).

Date03:52:56, May 27, 2005 CET
From Protectorate Party
ToDebating the Space for the People
Messageperhaps in order to throw the net as wide as possible, the actual work could be done by private firms, with the plans and results open to the public. This will help prevent us being locked into a single way of thought in the designs as well as move some of the costs to the private industry. This will also encourage utilization of the resulting technologies in the private sector.
The government owns all crafts that are used for the missions, while the R&D is done in private firms.

OOC: the choice of--The government shall operate a space agency that contracts with and oversees private space-exploration companies.

Date04:00:55, May 27, 2005 CET
From Protectorate Party
ToDebating the Space for the People
MessageAddressing the RC: If you would like a global community we should be willing to contribute some toward its goals.

Date12:20:57, May 27, 2005 CET
From Free Reform Coalition (FRP)
ToDebating the Space for the People
Messagewell, naturally there would be safety nets for people, they wouldn't just go into space if there weren't any safety standards, but in any case, i see libcom's argument.

also i'd like to add that there are many expenses and few immediate benefits from going to space, which is why government funding for it may be a better idea, but i think we should not restrict private industry from going into space, not only will it ultimately bring the costs down, but it will increase the competition for outer space development.

Date12:21:58, May 27, 2005 CET
From Free Reform Coalition (FRP)
ToDebating the Space for the People
Messagealso i don't quite follow the argument about why private corps shouldn't go into space, if there is a government agency thats fine, but no private?

Date14:29:22, June 16, 2005 CET
FromIndependent Combat Weapons Party
ToDebating the Space for the People
MessageThat could be to dangerous if they don't have good equipment. Mabye if we had an agency that could inspect private spacecraft and equipment.

Date15:53:13, June 16, 2005 CET
From Free Reform Coalition (FRP)
ToDebating the Space for the People
Messagethis is so old, are we going to vote on this ever?

Date21:26:45, June 16, 2005 CET
FromIndependent Combat Weapons Party
ToDebating the Space for the People
MessageYes please put this up to vote on.

Date01:38:55, June 17, 2005 CET
FromLibCom Party
ToDebating the Space for the People
MessageYeah alright, go on then.

Date01:57:12, June 17, 2005 CET
From Protectorate Party
ToDebating the Space for the People
Messagea bloated governmental agency is better then none and in some ways better then the other choices.
Due to the expense of such a program it should be kickstarted by the government.

Date03:18:49, June 18, 2005 CET
FromRadical Centrists
ToDebating the Space for the People
Message"Due to the expense of such a program it should be kickstarted by the government."

This is fair comment. In the absence of data concerning the nation's economic strength, we tentatively support, for now.

Date03:19:50, June 18, 2005 CET
FromRadical Centrists
ToDebating the Space for the People
MessageNo, hang on. I'm talking bollocks. We tentatively oppose for now.

Argh. I'm drunk.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
    

Total Seats: 46

no
  

Total Seats: 22

abstain
    

Total Seats: 32


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