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Bill: Gun Laws
Details
Submitted by[?]: Seosavists Republican party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2056
Description[?]:
| This bill will mean less guns in the wrong hands and less deaths. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Current: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Proposed: Adult individuals may not own firearms unless professionally required.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:42:26, May 21, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the Gun Laws |
| Message | Since the legaliseation of guns hundreds have died from gun related accidents, this can't go on! |
| Date | 21:06:12, May 21, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the Gun Laws |
| Message | Errrm, there aren't any proposals... |
| Date | 21:36:55, May 21, 2005 CET | From | National Forwardist Party | To | Debating the Gun Laws |
| Message | add the proposal, and i will agree with it. |
| Date | 03:24:09, May 22, 2005 CET | From | Opinion Poll Vultures | To | Debating the Gun Laws |
| Message | Prove that hundreds have died. Otherwise you are lying, under oath. |
| Date | 12:02:23, May 22, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the Gun Laws |
| Message | OOC: Oh yeah oops, it's added now. Under oath, I didn't take any oath. IC: It was in a newspaper recently and after almost 3 year of guns we can believe it! |
| Date | 13:43:18, May 22, 2005 CET | From | Catholic Peoples Party | To | Debating the Gun Laws |
| Message | what newspaper? are you refering to IC or OOC material? |
| Date | 16:41:27, May 22, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the Gun Laws |
| Message | Okay. This way, those who NEED guns have them and those who DON'T don't. |
| Date | 17:21:49, May 22, 2005 CET | From | Opinion Poll Vultures | To | Debating the Gun Laws |
| Message | Do the technocrats realize that by voting for this they are flip-flopping on the issue? |
| Date | 17:22:32, May 22, 2005 CET | From | Opinion Poll Vultures | To | Debating the Gun Laws |
| Message | Furthermore, we'd like to see this newspaper. ooc: its impossible to BS this type of stuff with me |
| Date | 18:11:49, May 22, 2005 CET | From | To | Debating the Gun Laws |
| Message | The NDP agrees with this proposal. |
| Date | 19:59:01, May 22, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the Gun Laws |
| Message | OOC: it's pretty reasonable that there would be at least one newspaper that says that even if it's not true. Do you want every single debate to end because noone can prove anything and you can't prove it wrong? IC: I am sorry but I recycled it. Not that it would have convinced you anyway you are too stuborn to accept being wrong. |
| Date | 20:40:16, May 22, 2005 CET | From | Opinion Poll Vultures | To | Debating the Gun Laws |
| Message | Wrong? What's wrong is you're support for such opressive measures. The people have a right to own guns. ooc: if you do things like that, then i can just as easilly say all the made-up garbage i want on all of my bills...its about being realistic ;) |
| Date | 21:04:15, May 22, 2005 CET | From | Seosavists Republican party | To | Debating the Gun Laws |
| Message | No they don't have a right to guns. It is scary that you think that people have a right to something that can kill in seconds. ooc: It is realistic that there would be biased material for one point of view or another! |
| Date | 21:18:52, May 22, 2005 CET | From | Opinion Poll Vultures | To | Debating the Gun Laws |
| Message | ooc: indeed, but in your initial allegation you made no mention of it being in a newspaper :D ic: People also are allowed to own knives, those can kill in seconds. So can a rope. So can your hands. If someone wants to kill, they will, regardless of ownership of a gun. |
| Date | 22:32:54, May 22, 2005 CET | From | National Forwardist Party | To | Debating the Gun Laws |
| Message | a knife has a use other than death. a gun has no other use than to kill. |
| Date | 03:00:40, May 23, 2005 CET | From | Opinion Poll Vultures | To | Debating the Gun Laws |
| Message | A gun can be used for more than just killing, that is very close-minded. |
| Date | 04:30:17, May 23, 2005 CET | From | Social Calvinist Unionist Party | To | Debating the Gun Laws |
| Message | We don't care about flip-flopping. Technically, we AREN'T flip-flopping. We NEVER were given this option, and we believe that this option is better than the "let the communes give out the guns" option. Of course, we voted for that option because it was better than no guns at all. |
| Date | 15:45:37, May 23, 2005 CET | From | Opinion Poll Vultures | To | Debating the Gun Laws |
| Message | Uh....no. This is EXACTLY what you voted against. What it is right now is what I changed it to. What it is about to become is what I changed it from. You are flip-flopping by definition. |
| Date | 15:45:56, May 23, 2005 CET | From | Opinion Poll Vultures | To | Debating the Gun Laws |
| Message | personally i dont care its your loss...but the people will destroy you for flip-flopping... |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 394 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 176 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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