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Bill: No More Imperialism Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Populist Islamic Workers' League
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2175
Description[?]:
| We have no right to "undertake all types of covert operations in other countries." |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Nation's policy with regards to an intelligence agency.
Old value:: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Current: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Proposed: The nation has an intelligence agency, but it is limited to counter-intelligence and surveillance of other countries.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:08:10, January 21, 2006 CET | From | Radical Democratic Party | To | Debating the No More Imperialism Act |
| Message | We are not surprised by the RGSP's insistence in gutting our defense in the face of the Axis threat. Does the RGSP want Indrala to lose a war to help it stage a coup, sorry, "proletarian revolution"? Or does it hope to profit as traitors and collaborationists under a foreign conqueror? |
| Date | 17:16:46, January 21, 2006 CET | From | Populist Islamic Workers' League | To | Debating the No More Imperialism Act |
| Message | We have always opposed imperialism, and the bad relations with the Axis countries will not change that. Also, we are not "gutting our defense," the national intelligence agency will still exist and help make us aware of threats. |
| Date | 20:18:51, January 21, 2006 CET | From | Inrala Panjoregu Kiokutou (DPP) | To | Debating the No More Imperialism Act |
| Message | We do not want to hinder the secret services by limiting their operations. Therefore we oppose. |
| Date | 21:00:19, January 21, 2006 CET | From | Inrala no Ikolowagitou (Green) | To | Debating the No More Imperialism Act |
| Message | The argument from "right" would lead to the conclusion that our agents should not break the law. Any country could then pass a law forbidding agents of a foreign power to report, and we could not legally gain intelligence from them. That would be a nonsensical position to adopt. The current proposal appears to be a mistaken effort to move towards a moral stance, but the justification is lacking. The pragmatic alternative is to allow our agents to do whatever is necessary. As a matter of operational policy, agents would generally avoid unnecessary lawbreaking anyway, since the attentions of the police would hamper their freedom of movement. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 22 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 62 | ||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 16 |
| Random fact: "Kubrk" is a Jelbic word that has the colloquial meaning "old man" or "geezer". |
| Random quote: "There are people in the world so hungry that God cannot appear to them except in the form of bread." - Mahatma Gandhi |