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Bill: Democracy Restoration Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Libertarian Solidarity
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 3996
Description[?]:
A motion to restore vital democratic principles and freedoms. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The right to appeal against a judgement rendered by a court.
Old value:: Judgements may only be appealed against for grave procedural errors.
Current: Every person has the right to appeal against a judgement and to have it reviewed by a higher court.
Proposed: Every person has the right to appeal against a judgement and to have it reviewed by a higher court.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's position towards the administration of law.
Old value:: There are no courts, the Head of State will determine what's right or wrong.
Current: There are regional courts that have jurisdiction over questions of regional law and national courts that have jurisdiction over questions of national law.
Proposed: There are regional courts, but decisions of regional courts may be appealed to national courts (if the right to appeal exists).
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Eminent domain compensation (if eminent domain is legal).
Old value:: The government determines compensation for victims of eminent domain.
Current: The victim of eminent domain sets compensation, government can appeal to the courts if they deem the cost too high.
Proposed: The victim of eminent domain sets compensation, government can appeal to the courts if they deem the cost too high.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: The military acts as a de-facto police force, with powers of arrest.
Current: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Proposed: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Government's policy towards the powers of the police.
Old value:: The police may arrest citizens for any reason.
Current: The police may arrest crime suspects.
Proposed: The police may arrest crime suspects.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards police presence.
Old value:: The police patrol public property at all times.
Current: The police patrol public property at all times.
Proposed: Presence of the police is left to the local governments.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change Police searches.
Old value:: The police can search a person or their property without restrictions.
Current: The police cannot search a person or their property without their consent unless the police have obtained a warrant from a court or have reasonable grounds to suspect that a crime was committed.
Proposed: The police cannot search a person or their property without their consent unless the police have obtained a warrant from a court or in cases of imminent danger.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 18:45:21, March 08, 2016 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Democracy Restoration Act |
Message | Mr. Speaker, How does this bill restore Democracy? What does this bill have to do with Democracy? It only reduces the power of the democratic state, i.e. the Great Democratic Republic. It takes the administration of justice out of the hands of the democratically-elected representatives of the people, and places power in the hands of bourgeois courts. When the government seizes private property, the 'Libertarian Solidarity' movement considers the bourgeoisie to be "victims" while ignoring their Capitalist oppression of the working class. This is a working class state, a state for the people. We reject the motion to put power in the hands of bourgeois courts. -- Trevor Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG |
Date | 19:01:57, March 08, 2016 CET | From | Libertarian Solidarity | To | Debating the Democracy Restoration Act |
Message | Mr. Speaker, how are the courts bourgeois? They are a legitimate part of the democratic order. We all know that for democracy to actually work, power shouldn't be accumulated in hands of a single person or a single institution. This bill aims at ensuring there be as little abuse of power of the state institutions as possible. With all our sympathy to the struggle against capitalism, Libertarian Solidarity at the same time firmly opposes authoritarian currents of socialism and communism. A true 'state for the people' has to respect people's individual freedoms. Cecil W. Monroe, Acting Chair of Libertarian Solidarity |
Date | 19:18:44, March 08, 2016 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Democracy Restoration Act |
Message | Mr. Speaker, Cecil Monroe confuses Democracy with Liberalism. The bourgeois courts are liberal institutions, not democratic ones. When Cecil Monroe speaks of "for democracy to actually work" - he means "for democracy to actually work for the bourgeoisie" - notice his use of the word "actually" and how it exposes his doubt for Democracy. He doesn't like unchecked Democracy. He demands that Democracy should be checked by a bourgeois institution so that things do not become too democratic. Democracy needs to be amended for it "to actually work" for him and his bourgeois friends. -- Trevor Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG |
Date | 19:45:35, March 08, 2016 CET | From | Libertarian Solidarity | To | Debating the Democracy Restoration Act |
Message | Mr. Speaker, I frankly see nothing democratic in the police having the right to do anything they please to and in the government holding an absolute rule over all branches of the system which is apparently what the GNRG aims to do. Libertarian Solidarity is by no means a liberal party. We, however, believe in a decentralised government and in no institution holding too much power because power does corrupt. Cecil W. Monroe, Acting Chair of Libertarian Solidarity |
Date | 19:50:32, March 08, 2016 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Democracy Restoration Act |
Message | Mr. Speaker, The Presidium is a directly-elected institution, through which the people can hold the government accountable. The government is elected by the Presidium, and the Presidium may choose to fire a President and the entire cabinet at any time it pleases. Lodamun is a country where the people have control of the state. Trust that Lodamun is the best example of Democracy in Terra. -- Trevor Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG |
Date | 20:24:50, March 08, 2016 CET | From | Libertarian Solidarity | To | Debating the Democracy Restoration Act |
Message | Mr. Speaker, I hear the arguments of the honourable chairman of the CNRG and I want to stress I don't deny that there are functional democratic mechanisms behind the Presidium and the government. It, however, doesn't mean they should be given limitless power. The principles promoted and defended by the GNRG can easily turn a democracy into a dictatorship. Cecil W. Monroe, Acting Chair of Libertarian Solidarity |
Date | 22:28:19, March 08, 2016 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Democracy Restoration Act |
Message | Mr. Speaker, Why must we draw some dichotomy between democracy and dictatorship, as if a Democracy cannot be a dictatorship, or as if a dictatorship is inherently undemocratic? Democracy is about the rule of the masses, the rule of the working class. A working-class dictatorship is inherently democratic. Lodamun is not an autocratic or aristocratic dictatorship like most countries; we are a country where the power of the people is fully realised. -- Trevor Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG |
Date | 10:25:00, March 09, 2016 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Democracy Restoration Act |
Message | Mr. Speaker, power in our nation is in hands of all those who have chosen to vote. Those people have elected the Presidium. The Presidium then formed a Cabinet and chose one person to stand up as their leader. If people should no longer be happy with the Government, we would hear that pretty quick. If I would misuse the powers invested in me, I would be replaced on the spot. I am serving the nation, and I am sure that any other President that succeeds me will do the same. The people are steering the ship, my job is to take responsibility if any issues should occur. Mark Lodewijkx President of Lodamun |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes |
Total Seats: 206 | |||
no |
Total Seats: 393 | |||
abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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