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Bill: Democracy Restoration Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Libertarian Solidarity

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: June 3996

Description[?]:

A motion to restore vital democratic principles and freedoms.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date18:45:21, March 08, 2016 CET
From Great National Republican Guard
ToDebating the Democracy Restoration Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

How does this bill restore Democracy? What does this bill have to do with Democracy? It only reduces the power of the democratic state, i.e. the Great Democratic Republic.

It takes the administration of justice out of the hands of the democratically-elected representatives of the people, and places power in the hands of bourgeois courts. When the government seizes private property, the 'Libertarian Solidarity' movement considers the bourgeoisie to be "victims" while ignoring their Capitalist oppression of the working class. This is a working class state, a state for the people. We reject the motion to put power in the hands of bourgeois courts.

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Trevor Fertig,
Chairman of the GNRG

Date19:01:57, March 08, 2016 CET
FromLibertarian Solidarity
ToDebating the Democracy Restoration Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

how are the courts bourgeois? They are a legitimate part of the democratic order. We all know that for democracy to actually work, power shouldn't be accumulated in hands of a single person or a single institution. This bill aims at ensuring there be as little abuse of power of the state institutions as possible. With all our sympathy to the struggle against capitalism, Libertarian Solidarity at the same time firmly opposes authoritarian currents of socialism and communism. A true 'state for the people' has to respect people's individual freedoms.

Cecil W. Monroe,
Acting Chair of Libertarian Solidarity

Date19:18:44, March 08, 2016 CET
From Great National Republican Guard
ToDebating the Democracy Restoration Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

Cecil Monroe confuses Democracy with Liberalism. The bourgeois courts are liberal institutions, not democratic ones. When Cecil Monroe speaks of "for democracy to actually work" - he means "for democracy to actually work for the bourgeoisie" - notice his use of the word "actually" and how it exposes his doubt for Democracy. He doesn't like unchecked Democracy. He demands that Democracy should be checked by a bourgeois institution so that things do not become too democratic. Democracy needs to be amended for it "to actually work" for him and his bourgeois friends.

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Trevor Fertig,
Chairman of the GNRG

Date19:45:35, March 08, 2016 CET
FromLibertarian Solidarity
ToDebating the Democracy Restoration Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

I frankly see nothing democratic in the police having the right to do anything they please to and in the government holding an absolute rule over all branches of the system which is apparently what the GNRG aims to do. Libertarian Solidarity is by no means a liberal party. We, however, believe in a decentralised government and in no institution holding too much power because power does corrupt.

Cecil W. Monroe,
Acting Chair of Libertarian Solidarity

Date19:50:32, March 08, 2016 CET
From Great National Republican Guard
ToDebating the Democracy Restoration Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

The Presidium is a directly-elected institution, through which the people can hold the government accountable. The government is elected by the Presidium, and the Presidium may choose to fire a President and the entire cabinet at any time it pleases. Lodamun is a country where the people have control of the state. Trust that Lodamun is the best example of Democracy in Terra.

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Trevor Fertig,
Chairman of the GNRG

Date20:24:50, March 08, 2016 CET
FromLibertarian Solidarity
ToDebating the Democracy Restoration Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

I hear the arguments of the honourable chairman of the CNRG and I want to stress I don't deny that there are functional democratic mechanisms behind the Presidium and the government. It, however, doesn't mean they should be given limitless power. The principles promoted and defended by the GNRG can easily turn a democracy into a dictatorship.

Cecil W. Monroe,
Acting Chair of Libertarian Solidarity

Date22:28:19, March 08, 2016 CET
From Great National Republican Guard
ToDebating the Democracy Restoration Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

Why must we draw some dichotomy between democracy and dictatorship, as if a Democracy cannot be a dictatorship, or as if a dictatorship is inherently undemocratic? Democracy is about the rule of the masses, the rule of the working class. A working-class dictatorship is inherently democratic. Lodamun is not an autocratic or aristocratic dictatorship like most countries; we are a country where the power of the people is fully realised.

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Trevor Fertig,
Chairman of the GNRG

Date10:25:00, March 09, 2016 CET
FromGrand Nationalist Fraction
ToDebating the Democracy Restoration Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

power in our nation is in hands of all those who have chosen to vote.
Those people have elected the Presidium. The Presidium then formed a Cabinet and chose one person to stand up as their leader. If people should no longer be happy with the Government, we would hear that pretty quick.
If I would misuse the powers invested in me, I would be replaced on the spot.
I am serving the nation, and I am sure that any other President that succeeds me will do the same.
The people are steering the ship, my job is to take responsibility if any issues should occur.

Mark Lodewijkx
President of Lodamun

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 206

no
   

Total Seats: 393

abstain
 

Total Seats: 0


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