We are working on a brand new version of the game! If you want to stay informed, read our blog and register for our mailing list.
Bill: Stuff the Bleeding Hearts and Wimps, Military Bill, 2174
Details
Submitted by[?]: Now And Zen Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2174
Description[?]:
| This was all the stuff that was shouted down in my recent Bill. Not by Arostok, however, as I've changed the Police and Military seperation clause. We'll send it to the vote, as all of this has been debated before. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of chemical and biological weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weapons in warfare unless another nation uses them first.
Current: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weaponry in warfare.
Proposed: The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Nation's policy with regards to an intelligence agency.
Old value:: The nation has an intelligence agency, but it is limited to counter-intelligence and surveillance of other countries.
Current: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Proposed: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: A civilian police force is in place and the military is not allowed to play any part in it.
Current: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Proposed: A civilian police force is in place, backed up by the military.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The use of torture for obtaining information.
Old value:: Torture is never allowed.
Current: Torture is never allowed.
Proposed: Suspects can only be tortured under grave emergencies where the information is vital.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding the treatment of prisoners of war.
Old value:: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Current: Prisoners of war must be treated well, according to internationally-accepted standards.
Proposed: Prisoners of war are treated according to the national laws of the captor power.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the export of weapons to other nations.
Old value:: The government must approve all arms sales on a case by case basis.
Current: The government must approve all arms sales on a case by case basis.
Proposed: The government allows arms to be sold only to close allies.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 08:06:31, January 22, 2006 CET | From |  Communist Party of Saridan | To | Debating the Stuff the Bleeding Hearts and Wimps, Military Bill, 2174 |
| Message | Nope we don't support and we nevah will. |
| Date | 16:14:25, January 22, 2006 CET | From | Voter Apathy Party | To | Debating the Stuff the Bleeding Hearts and Wimps, Military Bill, 2174 |
| Message | Please heed this warning. Apparently, most of you do not know about the rising threats in Terra. All of Terra may soon be pushed into a worldwide war. We do not want our country to be at the mercy of some tyrannical leader. We need to beef up our military and start making some hardcore allies or there will be no more Saridan. You can talk about being peace loving all you want but just because you are peace loving will not keep some crazed leader from attacking our nation. We need to step up our military and make sure we can protect ourselves. I know where I stand on this issue. Where do you stand? |
| Date | 00:01:01, January 23, 2006 CET | From | Christian Left Party | To | Debating the Stuff the Bleeding Hearts and Wimps, Military Bill, 2174 |
| Message | I Favor abstinence from NBC weapons and strong diplomatic allies for support. |
| Date | 02:17:10, January 23, 2006 CET | From | Voter Apathy Party | To | Debating the Stuff the Bleeding Hearts and Wimps, Military Bill, 2174 |
| Message | Well, I guess you could use that rock on the ground over there and I think I see a semi-pointy stick somewhere near here. As that rocket is coming in at you, try throwing those objects back at the attackers and let me know how that works out for you. Seriously, you can be against these weapons all you want but they are the only thing that will make these people think twice about attacking us. |
| Date | 03:52:37, January 23, 2006 CET | From | The Green Hornet Party | To | Debating the Stuff the Bleeding Hearts and Wimps, Military Bill, 2174 |
| Message | we voted yes....but we dont like articles 4, and 5 for sure and plan on making a change after this passes |
| Date | 18:28:46, January 23, 2006 CET | From | Voter Apathy Party | To | Debating the Stuff the Bleeding Hearts and Wimps, Military Bill, 2174 |
| Message | Now we are a force to be feared! |
| Date | 08:19:07, January 24, 2006 CET | From | Now And Zen Party | To | Debating the Stuff the Bleeding Hearts and Wimps, Military Bill, 2174 |
| Message | If only Caleb wasn't sleeping.... GHP, we applaud your ability to make allowances, for the greater good. TVP, again, I repeat that we only need to have them as a deterrent, not to actually use them, but we can't have a government hamstringed by legislation into being impotent when our country is threatened by evil. |
subscribe to this discussion - unsubscribe
Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 178 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 114 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 208 |
| Random fact: In Culturally Protected nations, special care must be taken to ensure realism is maintained when role-playing a government controlled by an ethnic and/or religious minority. If it is to be supposed that this government is supported by a majority of the population, then this should be plausibly and sufficiently role-played. The burden of proof is on the player or players role-playing such a regime to demonstrate that it is being done realistically |
| Random quote: "Isn't it about time that the US government stop supporting dictatorships and avaricious oligarchies with our tax monies, munitions, and diplomacy?" - Ralph Nader |