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Bill: Mutual Benefit and Refugees Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: National Liberal Alliance
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 4002
Description[?]:
| Mr Speaker, Giving away large amounts of taxpayer funds to foreign countries is an abdication of sovereignty. It is also grossly irresponsible and unfair since foreigners don't contribute anything to the fiscus. Given that the big state parties will never be responsible or fair, we should at least get some benefit for our 'investment' in the foreign countries' wellbeing. It is also unacceptable to continue with a policy where we hand over large sums of money to random foreigners, the so called refugees as so called 'integration aid.' If a refugee is not serious enough to make a personal effort to integrate into the Lodamese community, he should be expelled not bribed. Allowing anyone to cliam refugee status will lead to a situation where we have large communities of un-integrated minorities who demand the aforementioned bribe (integration aid) while contributing nearly nothing to Lodamun and negatively incentivsed to integrate as they want to keep receiving the bribe. Brian Hin NLP Chairman |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards giving aid to foreign countries.
Old value:: The government gives high levels of aid to countries in need.
Current: The government gives high levels of aid to countries in need.
Proposed: The government supplies "tied" aid to poorer nations in return for trading rights.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The national refugee policy.
Old value:: All refugees are welcome, regardless of their reason, and given aid in integrating them into the country.
Current: All refugees are welcome, regardless of their reason, and given aid in integrating them into the country.
Proposed: Only refugees that are victims of extreme circumstances are welcome; no aid is given to them.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 11:00:58, March 21, 2016 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Mutual Benefit and Refugees Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, if refugees are allowed to enter our nation, we should at least help them to integrate. Such integration program would benefit both the refugee and the nation. Louisa Labete Minister of Education and Culture |
| Date | 14:36:21, March 21, 2016 CET | From | National Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Mutual Benefit and Refugees Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, We are highly skeptical of the Minister's assertion that this 'integration aid' does much, if any, good. It is to us, simply another example of attempted social engineering through the mis-diversion of public funds. These so called refugees are simply draining funds meant for Lodamese people. We have no moral obligation to educate foreigners on our values or even to feed them, that obligation exists only towards Lodamese citizens. With the global war around us, the number of refugees reaching our nation could rise astronomically and we could be faced with a budget crisis .Brian Hinn NLP Chairman |
| Date | 14:46:58, March 21, 2016 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Mutual Benefit and Refugees Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I understand Mr. Hinn's idea. Still, we believe integration aid and education is a good action. If these refugees believe they can mean something to our nation, they might become a citizen once. They can only become citizens if they understand how our nation works. If they go back to their homeland after a certain amount of time, it might also be useful for us that they understand our way of life, in order to advertise our way of life abroad. Our nation has been misinterpreted on several occasions in history. Louisa Labete Minister of Education and Culture |
| Date | 19:08:01, March 21, 2016 CET | From | Libertarian Solidarity | To | Debating the Mutual Benefit and Refugees Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, frankly, this bill is one of the most disgusting faces of liberalism. We condemn the intentions of this bill and will definitely vote against it. Cecil W. Monroe, Chair of Libertarian Solidarity |
| Date | 20:08:29, March 21, 2016 CET | From | National Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Mutual Benefit and Refugees Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, If I understand the Minister correctly, she is proposing that we should continue 'aiding' these foreign parasites so that on the off chance that they ever leave our wonderful country, they will somehow educate ignoramuses in their country about us. I'm sorry but it is not enough. We do not care what imbeciles in say, Valruzia think about us. Lodamun withstood all the outside attempts at dictating our domestic laws.by foreigners. we are willing to support a pro-Lodamese advertising campaign but do not believe that foreign bastards should be allowed here, subsidised and coddled in order to get good press. If Valruzia for example opposes a restrictive refugee policy, let them take in all the foreign criminals and pimps they want and enjoy the benefits of that. As for LS, we are not surprised. Your party is one of those which have passed much legislation aimed at endangering Lodamun and stripping its of its longheld traditions and institutions. If we disgust thee, then we must be doing something right for Lodamun Brian Hinn NLA Chairman |
| Date | 01:00:03, March 22, 2016 CET | From | Libertarian Solidarity | To | Debating the Mutual Benefit and Refugees Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, the aggressive tone of the NLA speaks for itself. I wonder what traditions and institutions does the NLA actually represent. Racism? Bigotry? No, thanks. Cecil W. Monroe, Chair of Libertarian Solidarity |
| Date | 01:29:03, March 22, 2016 CET | From |  Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Mutual Benefit and Refugees Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, My party cannot go against the principles of Lodamese Nationalism. For most of its significant history, Lodamun has been a multicultural nation, a melting pot of all of Terra's cultures. Our idea of the nation is not based on exclusion, but rather the opposite. Even the ideology of Lodamese Nationalism welcomed immigrants to be a part of it, because anyone in the world may identify as Lodamese Nationalist upon moving to Lodamun. We do not tolerate xenophobia. While we may be weary of the impact of foreign governments and foreign-based agendas on our internal affairs, we are no enemy to the foreign masses. -- Joshua Fertig, Chairman of the GNRG, Minister of Trade & Industry, Vice President of 2GDR Lodamun |
| Date | 05:04:27, March 22, 2016 CET | From | Pro Lodamunese Unitarian Party | To | Debating the Mutual Benefit and Refugees Act |
| Message | We will not support this bill either it is, put simply, revolting. James Lodamun PLUP President |
| Date | 05:09:44, March 22, 2016 CET | From | Lodamese Social Democratic Party (LSDP) | To | Debating the Mutual Benefit and Refugees Act |
| Message | M. Speaker We will not support this bill under any circumstances. Sibylla Shepard, Chairman of the LSDP |
| Date | 06:27:49, March 22, 2016 CET | From | National Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Mutual Benefit and Refugees Act |
| Message | Mr Speaker, We are not xenophobic or anti-iimmigrant. There's a difference between hardworking legal immigrants and so called refugees who often have no skills at all. Do the leftwing parties really want to add the burden on our welfare, education and health systems, reducing the quality of services that our working class, who you wax so lyrically of, get? Skilled immigrants will always be welcome and we are not a racist movement at all, we oppose illegitimate refugees of every colour. Brian Hinn NLA Chairman |
| Date | 07:49:03, March 22, 2016 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Mutual Benefit and Refugees Act |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Refugees are not monolithic. Also, true Socialist parties are for the global working class, not just Lodamun's. We would want a foreign country to accept and protect Lodamese citizens if we faced a large-scale disaster that rendered us unable to tend to the needs of some citizens. A natural environmental disaster can cause a refugee crisis, and no country is safe from such a possibility. -- Stefan Burret, Minister of Environment & Tourism |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 599 | |||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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