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Bill: OOC: Cultural Protocol Disscusion
Details
Submitted by[?]: Parti Libéral de Alduria (Lib)
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 4019
Description[?]:
| We need to reaffirm our cultural protocol by May 1st, otherwise our nation will be culturally open and we will lose the cultural protection of Alduria, in accordance with sections 15 & 16 of the Game Rules (see http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6363 ). . I would like to put forward that we maintain the current protocol (below with updated links and naming tools suggested by moderation). I will sponsor this. ************ This bill is created in order to protect the Aldurian culture from radical and unrealistic changes, in conformity to game rules (http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6363. List of cultural Protocols http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6365 Based on and updated from previous version: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=441983 CULTURE The nation of Alduria has a French (called "Canrillaise" or "South Seleyan") Cultural Identity in this game, with heavy Holy Roman influences due to the past Union with the Holy Luthori Empire. PRE-GAME HISTORY The territory of Alduria was in the past inhabited by Malvic (Austronesian) tribes. In antiquity, the coasts of South Seleya, including the Aldurian coasts, were colonized by Selucian (Roman) city-states, leading to the future emergence of the Canrilaise (French) people and culture. During the Middle Ages, these city-states crystallized into a number of feudal kingdoms, and for much of its Medieval history most of the territory of Alduria was under the rule of the neighboring Canrillaise nation of Kanjor. Modern Alduria became a separate and united entity in 2072, with the unification of the various Canrillaise polities on its territory. ETHNICITY Canrillaise = French Luthori = British Malvic = Austronesian Duntrekker = Afrikaner ~Percentages of the Population~ 82% Canrillaise 7% Luthoris 5% Malvics 4% Duntrekkers 2% Other *Please note, these numbers, while not stagnate, should not fluctuate wildly. Large demographic changes should only occur with an extensive RP, and consent of all involved. The largest ethnic group in Alduria is the Canrillaise people, who are also the dominant ethnicity in Kanjor and Rildanor. The Canrillaise people are based on contemporary French people, and they speak the Canrillaise (French) language. Luthoris are a significant minority in Alduria, as a result of centuries of common history in the modern era, including periods of political union. After Alduria's independence from Luthori, many Luthoris left the country. Luthoris are based on the British people, and they speak the Luthori (English) language. The Malvic peoples were once the largest and most widespread ethnic group on the continent of Seleya, until the southwards expansion of Superseleyan (Indo-European) civilizations. Malvic peoples are based on Austronesians, and they speak the Malvic (Austronesian) languages. Duntrekkers form a significant minority in Alduria, largely due to the proximity of Saridan. The Duntrekkers are an ethnic group of Dundorfian (Germanic) descent, inhabiting various areas of Artania, Seleya,and Majatra. The Duntrekkers left Dundorf for other parts of Terra in the 1600-1700s, for a variety of reasons and remain a distinctive ethnic group to this day. They are based on Afrikaners in terms of culture and language. RELIGION Hosianism = Christianity Aurorian Church = Roman Catholic Church, Gallican rite Jacquardism = Huguenot Agathism = Catharism ~Percentages of the Population~ 82% Hosian --73% Aurorian --7% Jacquard --2% Other Hosian 13% Agathiste 5% Other (including Irreligious) *Please note, these numbers, while not stagnate, should not fluctuate wildly. Large demographic changes should only occur with an extensive RP, and consent of all involved. The largest religion in Alduria is Hosianism, a monotheistic religion founded in 1 CE which believes Eliyahu of Yishelem to be the Spirit of God and the Saviour of mankind. The largest Hosian denomination in Alduria is the Aurorian Patriarchal Church, the largest Patriarchal (Catholic/Orthodox) church created in 3861 by the merger of previously separated Churches. The Aurorian Church is closely connected to Canrillaise identity, and Canrillaise serves as the Church's liturgical language. The second largest Hosian denomination is represented by Jacquards, a Luthoran (Protestant) group following a Tasselist (Calvinist) theology, heirs of the Abjuration (Reformation) in South Seleya. Agathism forms the second largest religion in Alduria, and it is a syncretic faith combining elements of the Aldegarian (Iranian) religions with Hosian elements. Agathism was born in the Middle Ages in Kanjor, and most of its faithful relocated to Alduria as a result of persecution by the Hosian Church. Agathism is based on Catharism. For help with translation: https://translate.google.co.uk/ For help generating character names: http://fantasynamegenerators.com/#realNames ************* |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:06:37, April 21, 2016 CET | From | Parti des Progressistes Royales | To | Debating the OOC: Cultural Protocol Disscusion |
| Message | OOC: no, i want open cultural policy, and i have been put in charge of this since i have been in game the longest. If we have a "vote" on this i'm saying no |
| Date | 13:49:07, April 21, 2016 CET | From |  Moderation | To | Debating the OOC: Cultural Protocol Disscusion |
| Message | Just to clarify, nobody has "been put in charge" of the process of whether Alduria affirms or doesn't affirm its Cultural Protocols. There is a procedure in place to affirm your Cultural Protocols if you want to, and you're all equally entitled to play your role in that :). A few quick points a) Remember the Cultural Protocol bill needs to provide links to help with character naming and language translations. eg. https://translate.google.co.uk/ http://fantasynamegenerators.com/#realNames b) Provide links to the Game Rules (http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6363 ) and the Cultural Protocols Index (http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6365 ). Bear in mind the link to to the rules in the bill at the moment is out-of-date and doesn't work. Any questions, please don't hesitate to ask! Regards, Aquinas (Moderation) |
| Date | 14:47:35, April 21, 2016 CET | From | Parti Libéral de Alduria (Lib) | To | Debating the OOC: Cultural Protocol Disscusion |
| Message | Parti des Progressistes Royales I would personally quite like to see the culture maintained. I would like to see what the Libertarian Party thinks about this (and potentially the People Party if they are interested in playing in Alduria). According to the rules (It should be supported by a 2/3rds majority of all players with seats (not just those with seats who vote) and over 50% of the seats in the legislature.) The current situation in Alduria means that if two parties (excluding the people party) agreed then the protocol would pass. However I feel that the three of us (you, me and the Libertarians) who have all been here for a month should all come to a compromise rather than have two of us pass something that the other is completely against. If you are completely dead set on having Alduria become culturally open, we would like to suggest a compromise that the new culture be influenced by the old culture and we retain many of the elements of the old culture. |
| Date | 16:30:19, April 22, 2016 CET | From | Parti Républicain | To | Debating the OOC: Cultural Protocol Disscusion |
| Message | We would also like to see some elements of the old culture as it is what defines ourselves today. I'm kind of confused, is this just determining the demographics of Alduria for better role-play? and what affects or changes will it have in terms of role play? |
| Date | 18:25:12, April 22, 2016 CET | From | Parti Libéral de Alduria (Lib) | To | Debating the OOC: Cultural Protocol Disscusion |
| Message | Currently the cultural protocol of Alduria is defined here: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=441983 I'm not the best at explaining stuff so have a read of the rules; sections 6, 15,16,17 I do not think we should become culturally open because I am happy with the current culture of Alduria and I do not think we need to change it. |
| Date | 18:26:47, April 22, 2016 CET | From | Parti Libéral de Alduria (Lib) | To | Debating the OOC: Cultural Protocol Disscusion |
| Message | Link to rules mentioned in my previous comment ^^^ http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6363 |
| Date | 18:39:57, April 24, 2016 CET | From | Parti Républicain | To | Debating the OOC: Cultural Protocol Disscusion |
| Message | Okay we will support the old cultural protocol or a new one that has been modified slightly. |
| Date | 19:18:46, April 24, 2016 CET | From | Parti Libéral de Alduria (Lib) | To | Debating the OOC: Cultural Protocol Disscusion |
| Message | I'm just gonna put this forward as we're running out of time. If we both vote yes on this it will pass. I'll sponsor it. |
| Date | 19:41:13, April 24, 2016 CET | From | Parti Libéral de Alduria (Lib) | To | Debating the OOC: Cultural Protocol Disscusion |
| Message | Forgot to add for this to the bill (from the game rules): [(It should be supported by a 2/3rds majority of all players with seats (not just those with seats who vote) and over 50% of the seats in the legislature.) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 265 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 185 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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