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Bill: RP: Military Coup, Suspension of Diet's Political Power, and Automatic Elections
Details
Submitted by[?]: Imperial Conservative Union (IA)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 4066
Description[?]:
| OOC: This will become active if the current Republican bill is not "voted" down one month out from its passing date. As the current head controller of the Imperial Family, it is my responsibility to inform what the majority of the Imperial Alliance parties decision on this matter was. With 2 of the three parties in the IA who are in this country deciding this was the best course of action we state the following. P.S. I don't have my computer and my phone is not the best for dealing with this site. So apologies for any issues. IC: As the various laws passed by 2/3tds of this chamber dictate the Emperor serves as HoM, HoG, and HoS of the Empire. Consequently, by the power invested in him as the monarch of Luthori the Military is ordered to stage a coup and suspend the Diet's powers over the Luthori National Government and Imperial Government. All current bills being voted on are to be hulated and elections will be scheduled immediately. As the current actions are deemed treasonous against the crown, those supporting will be charged with treason, arrested, and if need be executed unless they change course.Furthermore, constitutional matters like the ones currently under vote can only be presented by the PM, as is stated in the Imperial Government and Privy Council bills, they sre illegal and thus null and void. (See archives). Any parties or officials who act against the military shall be arrested by the powers invested in the Imperial Military Police. Their parties shall be disbanded by force if they continue to resist. As the military swears an oath to the Emperor and not the government, all units shall move in unison to carry out his orders. The Imperial Diet's powers over the governing of Luthori shall be suspended until further notice. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:25:24, May 26, 2016 CET | From | Democratic Luthori Party | To | Debating the RP: Military Coup, Suspension of Diet's Political Power, and Automatic Elections |
| Message | OOC: This is a blatant attack on democracy, and the Inperialists wonder why no one wants to include them In cabinets. Quite honestly this goes to show how dangerous you can be. |
| Date | 23:39:55, May 26, 2016 CET | From | Imperial Progressive Party (IA) | To | Debating the RP: Military Coup, Suspension of Diet's Political Power, and Automatic Elections |
| Message | OOC: those are actual IG powers given to the Monarch, it has nothing to do with being Imperialist. And recall DLP Luthori is very much a conservative nation, imperialism Conservatism and right wing politics are the norm. Luthori is supposed to be acted out like a Semi-Democratic Absolute Monarchy, very similar to the German Empire. |
| Date | 23:49:11, May 26, 2016 CET | From | National Party of Luthori | To | Debating the RP: Military Coup, Suspension of Diet's Political Power, and Automatic Elections |
| Message | OOC: Historically any country no matter how monarchist is susceptible to a change in government, whether that be through a coup or something else. If this Republican revolt had RP elements attached to it, then at least I could swallow that pill. I'm opposed to government monopolies in this game as IMO that has nothing to do with culture. Those IG powers attached to the Emperor is precisely why my party is not a pawn of the nobles, as they carry far too much influence. This influence will be dealt with after the next election and they will be neutered. |
| Date | 23:49:21, May 26, 2016 CET | From | National Party of Luthori | To | Debating the RP: Military Coup, Suspension of Diet's Political Power, and Automatic Elections |
| Message | OOC: Historically any country no matter how monarchist is susceptible to a change in government, whether that be through a coup or something else. If this Republican revolt had RP elements attached to it, then at least I could swallow that pill. I'm opposed to government monopolies in this game as IMO that has nothing to do with culture. Those IG powers attached to the Emperor is precisely why my party is not a pawn of the nobles, as they carry far too much influence. This influence will be dealt with after the next election and they will be neutered. |
| Date | 00:13:07, May 27, 2016 CET | From | Freeborn Luthorians/Freeborn Coalition | To | Debating the RP: Military Coup, Suspension of Diet's Political Power, and Automatic Elections |
| Message | OOC; thank you NPL, in the UK while a majority favour the monarchy very few have any real interest in it, as they are uneducated on the matter, if the monarch does this it will be civil war on my part, this is my home and you Reactionary scum will have to face you'll have to really just deal with it. |
| Date | 00:52:07, May 27, 2016 CET | From | Imperial Progressive Party (IA) | To | Debating the RP: Military Coup, Suspension of Diet's Political Power, and Automatic Elections |
| Message | OOC: LPU please leave the rhetoric IC. Being a hardcore Communist IC is one thing... but I've seen a whole bunch of stuff leak out OOC... remember this is first and foremost a game for fun. Referring to the other players you play with as reactionary scum is going kinda far |
| Date | 01:05:55, May 27, 2016 CET | From |  Moderation | To | Debating the RP: Military Coup, Suspension of Diet's Political Power, and Automatic Elections |
| Message | Hey guys, I strongly recommend reading section 22 of the Game Rules on RP laws (see http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6363 ). In short, as things stand, this military coup is not legal under the rules. A few points: - You cannot use RP laws to require early elections in specified circumstances. - In cases where players have failed to clearly and accurately reference their nation's RP laws in the "Bills under debate" section, Moderation will rule them invalid if a challenge is made to their validity. So far as I can see, the RP laws involved here have not been clearly and accurately referenced in the debate section. - Any RP law granting extraordinary "emergency powers" or dictator-like powers to a government must be passed by at least a 2/3rds majority, but may always be overturned by a simple majority vote of the legislature. - It would seem more appropriate to introduce a military coup through a RP event bill than through a RP law. The fact that a constitutional monarch is symbolically head of the armed forces should probably not automatically be taken to mean he can launch a military coup whenever he wants, since in practice, thing do not always work like that! To be successful, a military coup against an elected government would presumably need the strong support of key figures in the military. For more information on RP event bills, see section 23 of the Game Rules. - I appreciate tensions are high amongst some of you at the moment, but please try to keep OOC discussions civil. This is only a game, after all! Atheism, I realise things seem tough for you at the moment and I am not going to give you a warning for the "reactionary scum" remark, but please be aware insults like that are not acceptable, and any further comments like that from you or anybody else will be met with Moderation sanctions. Anyway, I hope this clarification helps. Enjoy the game, but play nicely please! Aquinas (Moderation) |
| Date | 02:30:35, May 27, 2016 CET | From | Imperial Conservative Union (IA) | To | Debating the RP: Military Coup, Suspension of Diet's Political Power, and Automatic Elections |
| Message | OOC: would someone with access to a computer post the links to the three major Imperial Bills. The IDM reforms, the Privy Council, and the NPL's recent reforms. I can try and paste them in the bill. Everything that is required by the rules was done 2/3rds and all). |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 96 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 240 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 329 |
| Random fact: Don't vote yes on a cabinet coalition that doesn't give you the power that you deserve. |
| Random quote: "It all came from there." - Lech Walesa (pointing to a TV when a reporter asked him why communism fell) |