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Bill: Old Age is Overrated Act (a.k.a. the Death Promotion Act of 2175)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Uleroth Liberation Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2177
Description[?]:
| WHEREAS, old people are really a drag to be around; AND WHEREAS, it is very time-consuming to listen to their stories; BE IT HERE RESOLVED, that old age is overrated. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Current: The death penalty is applied for capital crimes.
Proposed: The death penalty is applied to most minor and all major criminal offences.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The right to euthanasia.
Old value:: Euthanasia is allowed with consent from the patient and the treating doctor.
Current: Euthanasia is allowed with consent from the patient and the treating doctor.
Proposed: Euthanasia is mandated for the old and sick
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:56:58, January 25, 2006 CET | From | Selucian Sovereignty Party | To | Debating the Old Age is Overrated Act (a.k.a. the Death Promotion Act of 2175) |
| Message | I'm thinking no. |
| Date | 17:22:33, January 25, 2006 CET | From | Uleroth Liberation Party | To | Debating the Old Age is Overrated Act (a.k.a. the Death Promotion Act of 2175) |
| Message | I'll be honest, the theme of the bill would have worked out better if there was a pension system to roll back, but we'll get one in time. Still, I think the message is clear enough. |
| Date | 18:00:38, January 25, 2006 CET | From | Imperial Party of Selucian | To | Debating the Old Age is Overrated Act (a.k.a. the Death Promotion Act of 2175) |
| Message | We are oppose to this bill. No way to force old and sick people to kill themselves. |
| Date | 19:28:09, January 25, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the Old Age is Overrated Act (a.k.a. the Death Promotion Act of 2175) |
| Message | I like the first one, I don't really like the second one. |
| Date | 19:31:46, January 25, 2006 CET | From | Selucian Sovereignty Party | To | Debating the Old Age is Overrated Act (a.k.a. the Death Promotion Act of 2175) |
| Message | So the next time you're caught speeding, you consent to being killed? |
| Date | 22:15:28, January 25, 2006 CET | From | Uleroth Liberation Party | To | Debating the Old Age is Overrated Act (a.k.a. the Death Promotion Act of 2175) |
| Message | What's wrong with the second article? Elderly people are usually not in the workforce (at least after 65), so they're not productively contributing to society - keeping them alive is like socialism. |
| Date | 18:09:07, January 27, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the Old Age is Overrated Act (a.k.a. the Death Promotion Act of 2175) |
| Message | I've been never CAUGHT speeding ;-) Death penalty is for MOST minor crimes (NOT all of them, I guess speeding isn't part of it) |
| Date | 18:09:56, January 27, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the Old Age is Overrated Act (a.k.a. the Death Promotion Act of 2175) |
| Message | ULP, do you realize you just voted against your own bill? |
| Date | 18:11:25, January 27, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the Old Age is Overrated Act (a.k.a. the Death Promotion Act of 2175) |
| Message | As I said, I like the first one, if you take that in a new bill without the second one, I will support that, but I cannot support this bill |
| Date | 18:15:12, January 27, 2006 CET | From | Selucian Sovereignty Party | To | Debating the Old Age is Overrated Act (a.k.a. the Death Promotion Act of 2175) |
| Message | How do you know that speeding is not a minor crime covered by this bill? What about jaywalking? Or littering? |
| Date | 20:14:37, January 27, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the Old Age is Overrated Act (a.k.a. the Death Promotion Act of 2175) |
| Message | Well, then we should make an ammendement that that is not. In MY country, "crimes" are meant not as "things that are illegal", but as "things that are illegal and morally bad and not done". I therefor should call a bank robbery a crime and speeding not Note that this bill already says: for MOST crimes, so your reply is useless again |
| Date | 21:41:06, January 27, 2006 CET | From | Selucian Sovereignty Party | To | Debating the Old Age is Overrated Act (a.k.a. the Death Promotion Act of 2175) |
| Message | I asked you which crimes? You can't answer me, because you don't know. You are therefore defending the indefensible. Your definition of "crime" does not exist in any country. The definition is quite clearly defined as "any act or wrong that the government has declared to be injurous to the public, and therefore, prosecutable in a criminal proceeding." Whether traffic and regulatory offenses (i.e.; "quasi criminal" offenses) falls within this act is unclear. Yet you support it anyway, without knowing this basic fact. Way to think things through before supporting them. Ugh. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 575 | ||||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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