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Bill: The Proposal Quota Reduction Act of 2175
Details
Submitted by[?]: The Mordusian Green Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2177
Description[?]:
| Most parties do not come close to using their entire proposal quota each year, so it makes little sense to the DP to keep it at such a high number. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The number of proposals a party can introduce per year (will be handed out as a monthly quota).
Old value:: 8
Current: 10
Proposed: 5
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:27:50, January 25, 2006 CET | From | National Thomasian Party | To | Debating the The Proposal Quota Reduction Act of 2175 |
| Message | We do seem to have a packed floor at the moment and it is making it hard to keep track of bills. Decreasing the quota may help. |
| Date | 21:00:20, January 25, 2006 CET | From | Agrarian Party of Mordusia | To | Debating the The Proposal Quota Reduction Act of 2175 |
| Message | The DP is making a lot of proposals, are they sure they want to support this? |
| Date | 00:45:47, January 26, 2006 CET | From | The Mordusian Green Party | To | Debating the The Proposal Quota Reduction Act of 2175 |
| Message | Yes, we do. We are making a lot of proposals in part to use all of our quota, but this is taxing - no pun intended. We would prefer not to have to make as many propositions per annum in order to fulfill our quotas. |
| Date | 20:28:10, January 26, 2006 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Union | To | Debating the The Proposal Quota Reduction Act of 2175 |
| Message | Yes, this would be a good thing to reduce. |
| Date | 05:25:43, January 27, 2006 CET | From | Country Labor Party | To | Debating the The Proposal Quota Reduction Act of 2175 |
| Message | So some of the parties on the left are perfectly willing to limit speech, as long as it serves their purposes. |
| Date | 07:24:19, January 27, 2006 CET | From | Agrarian Party of Mordusia | To | Debating the The Proposal Quota Reduction Act of 2175 |
| Message | I AM NOT A LEFTIE Damn. |
| Date | 13:43:38, January 27, 2006 CET | From | The Mordusian Green Party | To | Debating the The Proposal Quota Reduction Act of 2175 |
| Message | We think we have good support for a bill, and then it goes down in flames... |
| Date | 13:46:10, January 27, 2006 CET | From | The Mordusian Green Party | To | Debating the The Proposal Quota Reduction Act of 2175 |
| Message | Ah....as to the proposal limiting speech...most parties do not make the eight proposal they are given every year. So we don't understand why taking away what is not used can be construed as limiting freedom of speech. In fact, we are the only party that has come anywhere close to using all of our proposal quota. |
| Date | 17:17:35, January 27, 2006 CET | From | Agrarian Party of Mordusia | To | Debating the The Proposal Quota Reduction Act of 2175 |
| Message | Neither do we... :/ CLP? LHP? FP? CQP? |
| Date | 18:34:55, January 27, 2006 CET | From | Country Labor Party | To | Debating the The Proposal Quota Reduction Act of 2175 |
| Message | "So we don't understand why taking away what is not used can be construed as limiting freedom of speech" In other words, you change the definition to justify the result you want. How unsurprising. It has become increasingly clear to the CLP, at least, that there is no point to attempting to engage in debate when there is no consistency to the arguments put forth by the left. On this and other bills this session, it has become apparent that too often the left take whatever result they want for the bill in question and figure out a justification for it, rather than applying consistent, well-thought-out standards to the issue. |
| Date | 18:53:51, January 27, 2006 CET | From | National Thomasian Party | To | Debating the The Proposal Quota Reduction Act of 2175 |
| Message | The problem we see is that the vast number of bills filling up the floor at the moment is to the detriment of the political system. I can't spend a huge amount of time on particracy reading as many bills as I have to at the moment. Fewer bills would allow more chance to study the bills and give more reasoned debate. As it is someone can still build up 10 proposals. |
| Date | 19:09:05, January 27, 2006 CET | From | Agrarian Party of Mordusia | To | Debating the The Proposal Quota Reduction Act of 2175 |
| Message | CLP, do you have a fixation calling other parties "left"? |
| Date | 19:50:03, January 27, 2006 CET | From | Country Labor Party | To | Debating the The Proposal Quota Reduction Act of 2175 |
| Message | I might ask about your fixation -- why do you assume everything I say is directed at you? |
| Date | 22:12:46, January 27, 2006 CET | From | Agrarian Party of Mordusia | To | Debating the The Proposal Quota Reduction Act of 2175 |
| Message | Maybe because you always happen to say those things right after I posted something? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 272 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 327 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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