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Bill: Sort-of, Half-hearted Prison Reform Bill, 2176
Details
Submitted by[?]: Communist Party of Saridan
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2178
Description[?]:
Please modernize our country's prison system. Prison riots will decrease and our prisoners will be ready to be re-integrated into the work force when they return from jail. Or perhaps gaol. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Education in prisons.
Old value:: Prisoners are not given any form of education.
Current: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Proposed: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Prison policy concerning prisoner labor.
Old value:: Able-bodied prisoners have to work during the day.
Current: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Proposed: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 06:04:22, January 26, 2006 CET | From | Now And Zen Party | To | Debating the Sort-of, Half-hearted Prison Reform Bill, 2176 |
Message | Prisoners should pay and pay and pay, for the great evil they have done society. |
Date | 13:20:03, January 26, 2006 CET | From | Amalgam Party | To | Debating the Sort-of, Half-hearted Prison Reform Bill, 2176 |
Message | We could compromise on Article 1, but we don't support Article 2. |
Date | 14:09:29, January 26, 2006 CET | From | Voter Apathy Party | To | Debating the Sort-of, Half-hearted Prison Reform Bill, 2176 |
Message | We like article 1 but not article 2. |
Date | 23:28:59, January 26, 2006 CET | From | Caleb Party | To | Debating the Sort-of, Half-hearted Prison Reform Bill, 2176 |
Message | i dont like article 2. we shouldnt pay them for doing what they did to get in jail. we need to make prison horrible so they will never want to come back. if we payd them why would they ever want to leave? they would have a room, money, free food. they live better than some upstanding citizens. |
Date | 04:49:13, January 28, 2006 CET | From | Communist Party of Saridan | To | Debating the Sort-of, Half-hearted Prison Reform Bill, 2176 |
Message | Constant work and no education is going to make them GREAT citizens when they come back, isn't it? |
Date | 06:55:36, January 28, 2006 CET | From | Now And Zen Party | To | Debating the Sort-of, Half-hearted Prison Reform Bill, 2176 |
Message | They won't come back, once we make the death penalty more generalised. We also could have compromised on Article 1, but not on 2. |
Date | 07:39:14, January 28, 2006 CET | From | Communist Party of Saridan | To | Debating the Sort-of, Half-hearted Prison Reform Bill, 2176 |
Message | You bastard... |
Date | 22:02:16, January 28, 2006 CET | From | Christian Left Party | To | Debating the Sort-of, Half-hearted Prison Reform Bill, 2176 |
Message | i support |
Date | 01:20:54, January 29, 2006 CET | From | Now And Zen Party | To | Debating the Sort-of, Half-hearted Prison Reform Bill, 2176 |
Message | SGSP, being called a bastard by you is the greatest of compliments, for after all you have an intimate knowledge of bastards, having sired several yourself. (Well, you ARE against religion in all of its forms, so you can't have married, can you?) |
Date | 04:32:05, January 29, 2006 CET | From | Communist Party of Saridan | To | Debating the Sort-of, Half-hearted Prison Reform Bill, 2176 |
Message | Sorry...I just meant that you were a generally horrible person, not someone who was born "illegitimately". |
Date | 13:31:59, January 29, 2006 CET | From | New Path Socialist Party | To | Debating the Sort-of, Half-hearted Prison Reform Bill, 2176 |
Message | a) people do not automatically lose all rights on breaking the law b) it's not as if everyone in prison is even actually guilty given our repressive justice system. This is an eminently sensible although minor reform |
Date | 07:34:08, January 30, 2006 CET | From | Now And Zen Party | To | Debating the Sort-of, Half-hearted Prison Reform Bill, 2176 |
Message | SGSP... don't worry about offending me, I enjoy our banter. NPSP, aren't you aware of the fact that our justice system is one of the fairest in the land? The onus of proof is on the Prosecution, beyond a reasonable doubt, based on the Westminster system, to ensure that the innocent cannot be convicted. How much fairer could it be? |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | ||||
yes |
Total Seats: 216 | ||||
no |
Total Seats: 284 | ||||
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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