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Bill: The Refugee and Border Security Bill of 4054

Details

Submitted by[?]: Démocrates de Gauche

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: July 4055

Description[?]:

Preamble: Wherein it is recognized that a refugee crisis has existed in the near past, and it is the duty of all nations, including Alduria, to extend aid to as many people who suffer as request it, we extend our policy to offer greater welcome and support to refugees, assuring that they can maintain and create a prosperous and healthy life in Alduria. Also recognizing, herein, that we can and must assure the safety and caution of our border, and protect our trade, we will do so to protect foreign workers who suffer from poor work conditions by making business with us unaffordable to such worker rights violators. This will also protect the Aldurian economy and workers from outsourcing, and the negative impacts of globalization, which will come to harm Terra overall. In conclusion, this act will seek to reform our current policy to embrace refugees and ensure security, both physical and economic.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date19:50:10, July 06, 2016 CET
FromParti des Progressistes Royales
ToDebating the The Refugee and Border Security Bill of 4054
MessageI can't agree with article 1, it just isn't a smart move, but I am in complete agreement on the other two articles

Date04:00:31, July 07, 2016 CET
FromRepublic Alliance Party
ToDebating the The Refugee and Border Security Bill of 4054
MessageTo be fair, this bill is just completely stupid, you can't let every Tom, dick, and Harry into this country, it's just not safe to do that. I'm voting an emphatic NO to this bill.

Date04:26:58, July 07, 2016 CET
FromDémocrates de Gauche
ToDebating the The Refugee and Border Security Bill of 4054
MessageThis bill does provide for increased screening and security, so we clearly aren't letting in any Tom Dick and Harry. The Bill provides for increased openness to refugees while increasing the security procedures

Date10:04:07, July 07, 2016 CET
FromRepublic Alliance Party
ToDebating the The Refugee and Border Security Bill of 4054
MessageI don't see the point on increasing security for visitors, but allowing all refugees into the country regardless of their reasons, allowing them in regardless of their reasons in its self tells me that there will be less security checks, because if you say that, what if a person comes to this country from a nation that has high unemployment, now what if he has an extensive criminal record in his country, and has now made it even harder for himself to find a job because of his criminal record, so he comes Aldurie because we have more job opportunities. Under your proposed legislation we are supposed to let him in regardless of his reasons, even though he has an extensive criminal record, doesn't that sound dangerous to you? It certainly does to me, and with good reason. It would be completely stupid to do that, we would be putting our nations citizens in danger. I only agree with allowing refugees in, who have been victims of extreme violence, and I would at that, mainly allow women and children in.

Date10:31:09, July 07, 2016 CET
FromRepublic Alliance Party
ToDebating the The Refugee and Border Security Bill of 4054
MessageI also feel that your trade proposal will cause more problems than it will fix. First off, putting tariffs or taxes on everything that enters the country would be destructive, think of it, at the moment we currently put taxes on imports from nations that tax our exports to them, so if a nation doesn't tax us, we don't tax them, that's what is called free trade, and it's a good system. Under your trade legislation, if we tax every import that comes in, the countries that currently do not tax our exports to them, will start taxing us, as we would be taxing them. This would mean that our nations companies, who export goods overseas, would see major losses to their profits, it could also mean that they may move their production off shore, to a nation that has free trade agreements, as they won't be getting taxed. This would result in massive job losses for our nation. If imports are taxed from nations who we had free trade agreements with, it would cause the price of those items increase significantly, as now the off shore production company who we imported from, would have to put prices up, because they're being taxed, this would then result in our retailers putting prices up, because of production putting prices up, because we taxed them. This would damagingly increase the cost of living for our people.

Date14:54:56, July 07, 2016 CET
FromRepublic Alliance Party
ToDebating the The Refugee and Border Security Bill of 4054
MessageI do agree with article 3 of this bill. I think if you just proposed that, we would pass it.

Date18:20:13, July 07, 2016 CET
FromDémocrates de Gauche
ToDebating the The Refugee and Border Security Bill of 4054
MessageFrére Speaker,

While I can concede that the first article could have been more clearly written, and written in a fashion that better describes its secure and responsible implementation, it is still infinitely better than what we have now, a system which is not extremely open to immigrants. The article makes no reference to security or background checks for refugees, but neither did previous legislation! It has always been assumed that refugee policy is governed by the same laws as regular immigration, in the respects of security screenings.

On the issue of tariffs, we can and must institute more tariffs. Free trade has been an unmitigated failure and is not fair. Our current free trade policy encourages globalist outsourcing that stands to harm every party except the wealthiest parties. In free trade, sweatshops are allowed viability, and so the violations of workers rights, while we lose out on manufacturing, and our workers lose jobs. Meanwhile, the owners and management of companies effectively benefit from the loss of prosperity our working class suffers. Every free trade transaction has a human cost. I do not propose tariffs on all free trade, simply on most free trade, given that nations with no tariffs tend to have less instituted trade law in general.

I rest, for the moment

-Étienne duPerrier
Chairman of Démocrats de Gauche

Date11:44:00, July 08, 2016 CET
FromRepublic Alliance Party
ToDebating the The Refugee and Border Security Bill of 4054
MessageI think you've got something wrong here. You say that our current policy regarding refugees doesn't make any reference to screening or checks, however it does. We only take in refugees who are subjected to brutal violence, therefore we do check refugees who come into Aldurie, as we have to deem whether or not they are really subjected to such brutality. By changing the law to the proposed one, of letting in refugees regardless of their reasons, 1, tells me that there's no screening or checks, as they are allowed in, without even giving a reason. Whereas under the current law we screen people in order to discern if they are indeed telling the truth about their claimed persecution. As for your trade appeal, putting taxes on all items entering the country isn't the answer. We should only tax items that are exported to us by Aldurien companies who have moved offshore in order to pay workers less, in other words, set up a sweatshop. We shouldn't tax items that are exported to us by overseas owned and established companies, again only tax our companies 25% if they move offshore, not items exported to us by overseas established companies. Like I've said, we keep Aldurien companies in Alduria, but encourage free trade to other nations, as we don't want our major exports taxed by nations who never used to impose tax on our exports.

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