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Bill: Freedom Act-Ammended

Details

Submitted by[?]: Heradite Yunitou

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: June 2180

Description[?]:

To ensure the freedom of the people we have come up with the following proposals:

1. The Sale of Fireworks is unregulated; anybody may buy them.

For more freedom for the people.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date00:04:33, January 27, 2006 CET
FromRadical Democratic Party
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageOppose all three proposals, especially the xenophobic and useless Article 3 (there no illegal aliens in Indrala).

Date10:54:13, January 27, 2006 CET
FromLiberal Party of Indrala
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageFlat no from us.

Date11:10:01, January 27, 2006 CET
FromInrala Panjoregu Kiokutou (DPP)
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageNo to all three from us.

Date18:27:05, January 27, 2006 CET
FromInrala no Ikolowagitou (Green)
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageAnd us.

Date22:33:41, January 27, 2006 CET
FromPopulist Islamic Workers' League
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageWe also oppose this.

Date01:12:58, January 28, 2006 CET
FromHeradite Yunitou
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
Message1) Fireworks: Individuals should have the right to buy Fireworks.

2) There should be a freedom to bear guns-thus if protection is needed more people can defend themselves.

3) Just in case we ever get any Illegal Aliens we should be ready for it.

Date01:21:59, January 28, 2006 CET
FromInrala no Ikolowagitou (Green)
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageWe are amused. To call a bill the "Freedom Act", and then aim it at such fundamental issues as the "right" to buy fireworks is hilarious. We commend the Heradites for their brave efforts to entertain us in the face of the international situation.


Date02:07:08, January 28, 2006 CET
FromHeradite Yunitou
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageWhile we see your point we think that any responsible adult should be able to buy and use fireworks-such as to celebrate a birthday or perhaps a wedding. Something professionals tend not to have the time for.

Since most people like fireworks then this would cause barely any complaints and instructions could be given how to use a firework if needed.

Date02:31:09, January 28, 2006 CET
FromLiberal Party of Indrala
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageWe found it most humerous that the Heredie Party wishes for citizens not to be able to desecrate the flag, but calls a bill aiming for more purchasing freedom of fireworks as a Freedom Act.

Date02:43:42, January 28, 2006 CET
FromHeradite Yunitou
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageFireworks can show the support of your nation while burning the flag can't. Whiel fireworks can also be used not to support the nation at least they have a 50% chance.

Still most people can't afford professionals for special family events, and small towns or farming areas propably don't get to see fireworks often.

Date10:34:27, January 28, 2006 CET
FromLiberal Party of Indrala
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageThis is a straight question and is not meant as an insult. Herarite, are you a Fundy? also, have you ever heard of Franco? We object to your support for lemming-like following of our nation. Patriotism is unobjectable, but when it turns into Jingoism we have something to worry about.

Date14:17:35, January 28, 2006 CET
FromRadical Democratic Party
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageThere are no illegal aliens in Indrala because we have an open borders policy. All immigration is legal.

Also, both fireworks and weapons are dangerous to others. That's why we restrict their use to people who won't use them irresponsibly.

Date15:04:59, January 28, 2006 CET
FromHeradite Yunitou
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageNow I though the you said somewhere along this lines: you protect the freedom of the people but not what they do. And if that open-border policy changes?

LLP:

Franco? And about the Fundy part: We are a religious party. While some of our party is made up of Christianity we also have the other respectful religions of this country.

The bullying of other nations: Is celebrating a victory bullying? Well then when a sports team defeats another sports team there should be no vitory party!

Date16:37:27, January 28, 2006 CET
FromInrala Panjoregu Kiokutou (DPP)
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageAs far as we can see, the proposed firework policy actually restricts freedom. The current law allows anyone to buy fireworks, so long as they are small. That is why we see the complete deregulation of fireworks sales as not very radical: it would merely increase the range of fireworks that could be purchased.

Date01:43:13, January 29, 2006 CET
FromLiberal Party of Indrala
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageOOC: Franco was a Regressionary Fascist leader in the Spanish Civil War who gained most of his support from the Catholic Church, followed by Mousselini and Hitler.

We would like to know what constitutes a respectable Religion to you.

IC: We oppose all 3 proposals.

Date02:34:54, January 29, 2006 CET
FromHeradite Yunitou
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
Message(OOC: I know who Franco is! You said it IC though.

We gather support from Budhists, Christains, and all other religions in the state of Indrala.)

IC: By opposing these three articles in our eyes that means you do not support these rights?

Date16:29:56, January 29, 2006 CET
FromHeradite Yunitou
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageDPP: We see it the opposite. We see it as an option to buy any firework.

Date10:32:26, January 30, 2006 CET
FromInrala Panjoregu Kiokutou (DPP)
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageYes but at the same time it restricts who can buy them. The only progressive option as far as we can see is to completely deregulate.

Date12:48:23, January 30, 2006 CET
FromLiberal Party of Indrala
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageOOC: Can this go to vote so it is finally placed on the list of Ridiculous Proposals. I see The HerAdites are racking up so many they will soon need a file all to themselves.

Date01:26:00, January 31, 2006 CET
FromHeradite Yunitou
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageDPP: It should be done. And it is-check it again.

Date07:22:37, January 31, 2006 CET
FromLiberal Party of Indrala
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageGet on with it!

Date13:34:49, January 31, 2006 CET
FromHeradite Yunitou
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageILP: Nope. Not until we get support.

Date07:36:47, February 01, 2006 CET
FromInrala no Ikolowagitou (Green)
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageWe support putting it to the vote.

OOC: Please don't just leave it hanging in debate - that just clutters up the bill page to no good purpose. You can always re-propose it later if you ever do get support. Meanwhile putting it to the vote lets the voters know your position.


Date13:22:49, February 01, 2006 CET
FromHeradite Yunitou
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageOOC: But voters don't like proposals that aren't voted for..

Date14:59:37, February 01, 2006 CET
FromInrala Panjoregu Kiokutou (DPP)
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageWe can't support proposal 1 whilst the other two proposals continue to exist as part of the bill. We request a split.

Date00:16:57, February 02, 2006 CET
FromPopulist Islamic Workers' League
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageThis was a somewhat difficult decision for us, but we must oppose. We don't want people growing up without hands and eyeballs because they bought a massive firework when they were a kid.

Date07:53:50, February 02, 2006 CET
FromLiberal Party of Indrala
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageWe expect a similar response to this when the HerAdites's finally put the Prayer Act to vote.

Date19:10:11, February 02, 2006 CET
FromInrala no Ikolowagitou (Green)
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
MessageOOC: Dunno where you get that from. They don't like parties that abstain, but there's no penalty for losing a vote.


Date06:06:35, February 03, 2006 CET
FromHeradite Yunitou
ToDebating the Freedom Act-Ammended
Message(OOC: I read the tips.)

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 12

no
     

Total Seats: 81

abstain
 

Total Seats: 7


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