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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of February 4070
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative Right
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 4070
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the National Party of Luthori
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the National Party of Luthori
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the National Party of Luthori
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Falanges Party
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the National Party of Luthori
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Falanges Party
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Conservative Right
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the National Party of Luthori
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Falanges Party
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Conservative Right
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the National Party of Luthori
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Conservative Right
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Falanges Party
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:48:24, August 06, 2016 CET | From | Falanges Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of February 4070 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, We certainly cannot accept this proposition, first for ideological reasons and second of all because of how the cabinet is formed. Let me breakdown the 2 conditions that should be met in order for the Falanges to support and participate in any cabinet: 1. The Falanges are a party of ideology and principles. Therefore, any cabinet we will participate in has to take into account our 4 main princinples A. Populism: This means that power comes from the people and therefore needs to get back to the people, not to a bunch of nobles, elites and those who are financially fortunate. Populism believes that resources should get back to all people and Patriots. B: Statism: The government is the ultimate entity that should govern all the aspects of the Nation, its economy and its society. We are in complete opposition to liberalism. We believe that the government should control and be very active in the daily life of the Patriots. This also includes a strict rule of law behavior. C: Nationalism: Any government should adopt a Nationalistic approach in the government. This includes a less internationalist attitude. D: Clericalism: policies should be in line with the social conservative principles we adopt with a big role for the religious institution. Should the parties proposing this ideology adopt this ideology, or at least be willing to cooperate with us on such policies, then yes we can be together. 2. Cabinet Formation: There is no way we can accept any cabinet if we do not have the following portfolios: - PM - Ministry of Internal Affairs - Ministry of Defense - Ministry of Justice The remaining 9 seats can be split (5-4 or 6-3) between NPL and CR. Finally, should these parties accept the above, we are willing to cooperate with them. If these terms are not accepted, then we kindly urge all the parties not to propose any cabinet that includes us or requires our support. We are an ideological party who doesnt accept concessions in its core beliefs. Concessions previously have cost us a lot, we are not willing to repeat it again. We prefer a thousand times to be in the opposition than to be in a government that doesnt adopt acceptable positions to us or takes our representation weight lighty. I yield, Jesus De Rivera Supreme Leader of the Falanges |
| Date | 10:45:09, August 06, 2016 CET | From | Conservative Right | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of February 4070 |
| Message | Mr Speaker Its been a long time since I seen such greed. Since I have seen such disregard for country and duty! Such selfishness. The positions that you mention were not given to you because 1 Conservative Right is the most senior party in those positions 2 We will never allow for you and your blackshirts to abuse the power of the minister of internal affairs. Which by traditional you have no right to! This was our last attempt at finding a government with you. You have proven to be nothing but simple minded. Carl William Urquhart leader of the Conservative Right |
| Date | 13:30:51, August 06, 2016 CET | From | Falanges Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of February 4070 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, It seems the CR is living in the past. First of all we are the most senior party in this Nation, established in 2336. Second of all, the CR is the smallest party in this coalition. So you do not dictate the terms, in you habitual arrogant attitude. Second of all, your party is not in a position to allow or disallow anything. Big parties in this Nation do so, such as Falanges, NPL and LPU. You are nothing but merely a minor party in the country. We only proposed 4 seats for us, 4 for you (Although we are a bigger party than you) and 5 for NPL. Anyway, our agendas seem to be very divergent one from the other so no need to even try. Jesus de Rivera Supreme Leader of the Falanges |
| Date | 15:09:18, August 06, 2016 CET | From | Conservative Right | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of February 4070 |
| Message | Mr Speaker If Mr Riveras party left his voters previously there is nothing we can do about that. And if he didn't understand I'll need to spell.it out for him again. In. Those. Positions. We have held those in every cabinet we were in, in the last century. With you having justice the first thing you did was arrested he liberals! Carl William Urquhart leader of the Conservative |
| Date | 15:24:05, August 06, 2016 CET | From | Falanges Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of February 4070 |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Minister of Justice was doing his duties back-then and there were serious doubts about the role LP was playing. Also note that we only arrested LP leader for 12 hours before releasing them and we did not arrest other party officials. The proof that what we were doing was correct is that few years later a failed coup happened. We hope one day the CR will wake up from his arrogance and see that they are destroying the Nation by their greed for seats (which started since the days of late Wilma). Congratulations to the LPU, Patty Genn will remain in power. If you have opponents such as the CR, trust me you need no allies. Jesus De Rivera, Supreme Leader of the Falangees/Commander of the Falanges Blackshirts |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 215 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 371 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 79 |
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