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Bill: Lutte contre les aristocrates
Details
Submitted by[?]: Sans-Culottes
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 4074
Description[?]:
| A bill to allow the public execution of the remnants of the aristocracy and counterrevolutionary elements. WHEREAS, counterrevolutionary and monarchist elements continue to threaten our nation's existence as a genuine republic, in which each person has dignity and autonomy over his or her own life; WHEREAS, the crimes of bankers and the wealthy have for too long gone under punished, despite the fact that those crimes have resulted in the destruction of thousands of lives; BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED that the follow crimes shall be considered capital crimes and thereby qualify for the death penalty: 1. Collusion, embezzlement, fraudulent misrepresentation, bribing of government officials, market manipulation, or any combination thereof resulting in substantial threat to the national or international markets. 2. Any violent or illegal effort to instate the monarchy or deprive the National Assembly of its constitutional powers. BE IT FURTHER ENACTED that upon conviction for any of these crimes and the sentencing to death, that sentence shall be carried out in public. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Current: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Proposed: The death penalty is applied for capital crimes.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Public executions (if death penalty is legal).
Old value:: Executions are always carried out in private; however, family members, the victim and the victim's relatives are allowed to be present.
Current: Executions are always carried out in private; however, family members, the victim and the victim's relatives are allowed to be present.
Proposed: Executions may be carried out in public and/or be broadcast on television.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:32:35, August 12, 2016 CET | From | Union des Centristes | To | Debating the Lutte contre les aristocrates |
| Message | Members of the National Assembly, This is a vile, barbaric bill and it ends any scrap of support the UdC had for your party. Killing people on live television is totally barbaric. This is the most horrendous act I've ever seen put forward in this nation's assembly. How any human being can come to the conclusion that a human being should be killed for something that does not kill anyone is beyond me. Corruption is wrong, but it is not deadly. And surely the government is regulating these people. This is a prime example of why communism is a sick, twisted, immoral, insane ideology which can never be instituted in a democracy. You talk of these crimes being wrong, but I suppose legalised murder is fine? How dare you propose this. How very well dare you! The idea that we should reinstate the monarchy is a very good one. It's a great tradition which helps give Rildanor a national identity. The simple blind-eyed rage you have at people more successful than you is dreadful and inhuman. George Monbaque Union des Centristes Deputy Leader National Assembly Member from Tiralouse |
| Date | 16:34:50, August 12, 2016 CET | From | Parti National de la Jeunesse Gauche | To | Debating the Lutte contre les aristocrates |
| Message | Members of the National Assembly, We find it hard to take the bill proposed by the Sans-Culottes, who have otherwise been friendly colleagues in this chamber, seriously. Our country is strong and prosperous, and our people generally enjoy one of the highest standards of living in the world. However, we must not let this distract from the threats that unfettered capitalism and our regressive tax system pose to future generations. We have a duty to safeguard opportunity for the new generation of Rildanorians. In that vein, we propose that, rather than let this bill distract us, we bring to the floor legislation that will strengthen, not weaken, our republican. We must bolster existing consumer protections, safeguard our public education and health systems, and more aggressively pursue corruption. The PNJG is adamantly opposed to the death penalty, but we must root out and attack corruption where it takes root, in order to keep it from flourishing. |
| Date | 16:38:07, August 12, 2016 CET | From | Sans-Culottes | To | Debating the Lutte contre les aristocrates |
| Message | Comrades, We disagree with Deputy Monbaque that the use of the death penalty is legalized murder. We object to its overuse, of course, but solely because of the likelihood of the execution of an innocent when applied to the working class. By retaining the death penalty solely for crimes committed by the wealthy--who too often act as if they are above the law and receive minimal punishment for grave crimes--we effectively eliminate the risk of execution of innocents. Moreover, the death penalty serves an important law enforcement purpose: in ex ante considerations, deterring those who would place the well being of this nation in peril for their own enrichment. As it stands, a few years in a luxury prison hardly outweighs the benefit of billions in profit! Finally, the use of the death penalty vindicates the harm done to the families by those convicted of the aforementioned crimes. With regard to the public nature of the executions, we suggest that this is vital to any use of the death penalty. We cannot carry out executions effectively in secret. If we are to carry them out at all, it must be in the open, in full view. We should not spare ourselves the reality of what we must do on behalf of our nation. Moreover, with respect, we find it ironic that our colleagues in the Union des Centristes suggests this is the most barbaric bill put forth, when in this very legislative session they have called for the legalization of bestiality and the vast privatization of industry. Finally, as we have repeatedly stated, as freedom-loving people we strongly oppose any return of the monarchy or any system that arbitrarily confers benefit or wealth by sole virtue of one's birth. This runs contrary to the fundamental values of our nation, the values which provide our nation all of the character we need; we have no use for tyrants, if the monarch is to have any political power whatever, and have even less use for leeches, if the monarch is to be purely symbolic. We are not a communist party, though we do proudly represent the Rildanorian working class in this Assembly. We hope to continue to work with your party notwithstanding our substantial differences, but if not we will happily move forward without your support as we seek to ensure the wellbeing of our grand republic. |
| Date | 17:37:12, August 12, 2016 CET | From | Union des Centristes | To | Debating the Lutte contre les aristocrates |
| Message | Members of the National Assembly, I do, perhaps bravely, think that there is a slight difference between a private company owning an airport terminal and the public execution of people's fathers and mothers for non-violent crimes, no? Perhaps the Communist Party of Rildanor (shortened to Sans-Culottes) have some kind of neurological disease. Perhaps that is why they believe that wealth makes you inhuman. Perhaps they're just not wired properly, so they think that only poor people have human rights. If there was a violent revolution in the streets were CEOs were ripped apart by angry mobs with sickles and hammer, I suspect that Mr. Robespierre with a gulag-esque red-star banner proudly in his hands to be leading the charge into the local banks. After all, you're not human once you can pay your bills. George Monbaque Union des Centristes Deputy Leader National Assembly Member from Tiralouse |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 23 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 42 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 10 |
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