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Bill: Labor Republic
Details
Submitted by[?]: Konfederacio Nacia Laboro
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 4123
Description[?]:
| The Socialist Transformation of Zardugal is almost complete, but workers continue to fight each other in a market economy rather than working together for a better world. OOC: When I was in Aloria the leftist parties flirted with and even almost created an RP based second chamber of Workers' Deputies, what does everyone think about trying that in Zardugal? |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy on industry and subsidies to industrial operations.
Old value:: The government acts as an investor of last resort, by nationalizing failing industries that provide vital goods or services.
Current: Certain industries are owned by the state, all others are under private ownership.
Proposed: The state owns the commanding heights of the economy and all major industries, but private ownership is allowed in the minor industries.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Policy on monopolies (this general law is superceded by other laws relating to specific parts of the economy).
Old value:: Monopolies are forbidden, and are actively broken up.
Current: Monopolies are forbidden, and are actively broken up.
Proposed: Monopolies are actively enforced in all sectors of the economy.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 06:08:56, August 15, 2016 CET | From | Konfederacio Nacia Laboro | To | Debating the Labor Republic |
| Message | We open the Floor to debate. -Lothgete of Trade and Industry Formoso Zografido |
| Date | 10:05:23, August 15, 2016 CET | From | Soldatoj de la Nova Tagiĝo | To | Debating the Labor Republic |
| Message | "We believe that the nationalization of all major industries is an extreme measure, and we oppose the legitimization of monopolies, whether the industries in question are government-run or in the private sector." -Zeno Filadelfo, SNT Critic for Trade and Industry OOC: From an OOC standpoint, I think it would be fun. From an IC standpoint, my party is not sufficiently leftist to support that, and it is actually likely that I will drift to the economic right to fill the gaping hole there. |
| Date | 10:19:03, August 15, 2016 CET | From | Soldatoj de la Nova Tagiĝo | To | Debating the Labor Republic |
| Message | OOC: I just realized that I referred to my far-right party as "not sufficiently leftist," which may seem ludicrous at first glance, but I will point out that my voting record on economic issues could be described as "center-left." It took a long time for me to decide where I wanted my party to be on the economy, and I finally decided on the awkward description of "statist, without being too socialist." But that was before our economic right-wing parties deactivated, and now I feel like I should drift toward the economic right since A: There is currently no economic right-wing party in Zardugal, and B: The economy is what I was least decisive about in the first place. |
| Date | 11:17:24, August 15, 2016 CET | From | Hosia Demokrata Popola Partio | To | Debating the Labor Republic |
| Message | We would support such a measure if instead of the state it would be alternate intermediate organizations holding the commanding heights of the economy. Trade unions, Churches, families, and small businesses working together in a single representative body would be preferable to simply nationalizing all industries. Praksitelo Joviano OOC: Yeah it would make sense for your party to drift towards the right, economically. We lost our two Zardic Federalist parties (basically a form of moderate center-right and devolutionist conservatism), maybe you could do the far-right version of that. |
| Date | 15:43:31, August 15, 2016 CET | From | Our Revolution | To | Debating the Labor Republic |
| Message | I totaly agree with first part.Nationalization is a truly needed measure.I think we actually need to move this country more to a socialist policies as a good response.But i cant ever say that monopoly is a good thing.Expect for board game Ernie Saunder |
| Date | 16:44:44, August 15, 2016 CET | From | Konfederacio Nacia Laboro | To | Debating the Labor Republic |
| Message | In response to our Comrades in the HDPP, The point of the Nationalizations is to simply formalize the relationship between the industries and and the future Council of Workers' Deputies, they do not truly change their ownership, which remains in the hands of the workers themselves. - Former Lothgete of Trade and Industry Formoso Zografido |
| Date | 17:16:04, August 15, 2016 CET | From | Hosia Demokrata Popola Partio | To | Debating the Labor Republic |
| Message | A preferable idea would be to establish such a Council first and establish some control mechanisms to make sure power over industries does not get subverted by undemocratic forces. A state, no matter how democratic, can easily be taken over by bureaucrats, oligarchs, or other minority interest groups. We would in fact favor the establishment of a corporatist model and an upper house joining all major interest groups, including but not limited to Workers' Councils, trade unions, Churches, employers' associations, etc. Corporatism is a viable political and economic model that can function within a perfectly democratic framework and replaces selfish competition and destructive class struggle with cooperation and solidarity. Praksitelo Joviano |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |
| yes | Total Seats: 750 | |
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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