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Bill: Budget proposal of October 2177

Details

Submitted by[?]: National Thomasian Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill proposes to change the allocation of funds in the budget. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: July 2178

Description[?]:

The Liberal Socialist Union propose to adjust the government's spending budget to better address the economic and social situation of the Mordusian Federal Republic. An extra 2 billion rupees have been given to Defense to pay for the state owned defense industries started under the Defense Development and Research Bill. 2 billion rupees are given to Health and Social Serivces to fund the new job seekers allowance and 2 billion rupees goes to Science and Technology to help with subsidees given under the Drug Research Bill of 2171 (Revision).

This lowers the surplus to 8 billion rupees from 14 billion but going by current growth rates the surplus will grow back to current levels within 4-6 years. As a cut in the surplus should speed economic growth it is expected that tax revenues will grow even faster than in the recent years so the return to current surplus levels should be towards the lower end of the 4-6 year estimate.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date19:07:43, January 29, 2006 CET
FromThe Mordusian Green Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2177
MessageWe reject the idea that more money needs to be given to National Defense. We have no enemies. If anything, we need to reduce our defense spending, and grant more to Health and Social Services and others of the like.

Date20:11:19, January 29, 2006 CET
FromUnio Liberál daď Ordio Mordusián
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2177
MessageWe are against spending increase. If we have a big surplus ,we should lower taxes. People will have more money in their pockets and demand will grow also. There is no need to press money into inefficient public sector.

Date20:53:30, January 29, 2006 CET
FromNational Thomasian Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2177
Message:O the FPM? Welcome back!

As it is taxes are already very low across the board and funding needs to be increased in our opinion to decrease a balooning surplus and to ensure that the laws passed by the house are properly carried out.

Date21:00:49, January 29, 2006 CET
FromUnio Liberál daď Ordio Mordusián
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2177
MessageOOC: Hello .I've noticed that it's quite crowded here :p

Date22:53:10, January 29, 2006 CET
FromLeft-Hand Path
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2177
MessageWe are saddened, though not surprised to see no cuts in this proposal.

Date23:24:21, January 29, 2006 CET
FromNational Thomasian Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2177
Messagethere is no need for cuts. If the surplus was shrinking as rapidly as it is currently growing there might be.

Date23:27:46, January 29, 2006 CET
FromLeft-Hand Path
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2177
MessageWe believe that a better way to shrink the surplus is to cut taxes, not raise spending. This is not our money, it's the people's.

Date23:32:23, January 29, 2006 CET
FromNational Thomasian Party
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2177
Messageand we are investing it for the people to ensure that the laws we pass on their behalf are carried out correctly.

Date23:37:09, January 29, 2006 CET
FromLeft-Hand Path
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2177
MessageThe money does not belong to "the people" in general but to individual taxpayers. Government exists to protect the nation's rights and liberty, not to "invest" their money for them. It is especially not our job to take money from the people who earn it to pay for freebies for the people who do not.

Date23:40:15, January 29, 2006 CET
FromUnio Liberál daď Ordio Mordusián
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2177
MessageWe share LHP view. We could vote for lower taxes ,but not for spending increase.

Date23:42:02, January 29, 2006 CET
FromUnio Liberál daď Ordio Mordusián
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2177
MessageIt's stupid to take money from people ,only to pay for something that they can buy themselves.

Date05:35:37, January 30, 2006 CET
FromDemocratic Socialist Union
ToDebating the Budget proposal of October 2177
MessageWe have the monetary surplus, may as well put some of it to use.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
      

Total Seats: 321

no
    

Total Seats: 278

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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