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Bill: LU - Military Reforms, December 4089
Details
Submitted by[?]: Libertarian Union (LU)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 4090
Description[?]:
| Proposed by James Anderson, LA Defence Minister |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning biological and chemical weaponry.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to develop, construct and store biological and chemical weapons.
Current: The nation shall never develop, purchase or store biological or chemical weaponry.
Proposed: The nation shall never purchase, produce, or store biological or chemical weaponry, for military purposes. Research and development of the technology is permitted.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the use of chemical and biological weaponry in warfare.
Old value:: The nation reserves the right to use chemical or biological weapons in warfare for any reason.
Current: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weaponry in warfare.
Proposed: The nation shall never use chemical or biological weaponry in warfare.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The nation's defence industry.
Old value:: Defence industries are privately owned and not subsidised.
Current: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Proposed: The state owns all defence industries.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Nation's policy with regards to an intelligence agency.
Old value:: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Current: The nation has an intelligence agency, but it is limited to counter-intelligence and surveillance of other countries.
Proposed: The nation has an intelligence agency, but it is limited to counter-intelligence and surveillance of other countries.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards the use of land mines by the army.
Old value:: The use of land mines is allowed but restricted.
Current: The use of land mines is prohibited.
Proposed: The use of land mines is prohibited.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Discrimination in the military on grounds of race/religion.
Old value:: Candidates must be of a certain race/religion to have any place in the military.
Current: Any adult citizen can serve in the military, discrimination for racial or religious reasons is prohibited.
Proposed: The government does not interfere with the military over who can serve in it.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the export of weapons to other nations.
Old value:: The government must approve all arms sales on a case by case basis.
Current: The government must approve all arms sales on a case by case basis.
Proposed: The government does not allow arms to be exported.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:31:43, September 13, 2016 CET | From | Lodamese Republican Party | To | Debating the LU - Military Reforms, December 4089 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Our party cannot agree on almost all of these articles, these bills concerning the military completly go against the ideology of our party. |
| Date | 19:31:57, September 13, 2016 CET | From | Lodamese Republican Party | To | Debating the LU - Military Reforms, December 4089 |
| Message | -Zeren Udarmann Verbands-Vorsitz |
| Date | 20:47:44, September 13, 2016 CET | From | Anarchokommunistische Union | To | Debating the LU - Military Reforms, December 4089 |
| Message | Mr.Speaker Our party sees this as a great initiative and as a right step on the path to a peaceful Terra. Our parties seem to dit together well. We hope for further cooperation concerning our shared libertarian ideology! Finn Süßmann Co-Leader of the AKU |
| Date | 20:54:57, September 13, 2016 CET | From | Lodamese Republican Party | To | Debating the LU - Military Reforms, December 4089 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Of course the Anarcho-Communst Union is supporting pacifistic ideas, because they are reality-refuseniks! The idea of a state they represent will not work, it would maybe work in a little biotope but nowhere else! Andreas Thaller VLD-member |
| Date | 21:07:04, September 13, 2016 CET | From | Anarchokommunistische Union | To | Debating the LU - Military Reforms, December 4089 |
| Message | Mr.Speaker If it wasn't in the human nature to mix up fantasy and reality there would be no place for optimism. Our party doesn't want to get rid off our military. We are aware of the fact that we need to defend our country. But at the moment there is no one threatening Lodamun. We should show the world that we are a peaceful society and then we will get peaceful feedback. Finn Süßmann Co-Leader of the AKU |
| Date | 21:09:00, September 13, 2016 CET | From | Lodamese Republican Party | To | Debating the LU - Military Reforms, December 4089 |
| Message | *Andreas von Thaller throws his papers into the air and furiously leaves the room* |
| Date | 22:05:26, September 13, 2016 CET | From |  Libertarian Union (LU) | To | Debating the LU - Military Reforms, December 4089 |
| Message | Let me make a clear statement: There is a difference between pacifism and not using chemical and biological weapons. We chose to not propose change on nuclear weaponry as we see it necessary for national defence. I'd also like to echo the message of the AKU. Carlos Everton LU Leader |
| Date | 06:05:10, September 14, 2016 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the LU - Military Reforms, December 4089 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, It would be silly for us to wait for a credible threat before we decide to take preparatory measures against it. We must be ready at all times. -- Cletus Barlow, Chairman of the GNRG, Minister of Justice, Vice President of 2GDR Lodamun |
| Date | 07:24:25, September 14, 2016 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the LU - Military Reforms, December 4089 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, for years my party has worked to maintain a healthy military. We will not allow this bill to overthrow our military structure. Carline Dewaele Minister of Defence |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 261 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 338 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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