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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of October 4089
Details
Submitted by[?]: Anarchokommunistische Union
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 4090
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
As per the Constitution, the President of the Commonwealth chairs the cabinet.
Article 2
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the 
Libertarian Union (LU)
Article 3
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Lodamese Republican Party
Article 4
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Anarchokommunistische Union
Article 5
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Libertarian Union (LU)
Article 6
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Lodamese Republican Party
Article 7
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Libertarian Union (LU)
Article 8
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Libertarian Union (LU)
Article 9
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Anarchokommunistische Union
Article 10
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Lodamese Republican Party
Article 11
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Anarchokommunistische Union
Article 12
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Libertarian Union (LU)
Article 13
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Lodamese Republican Party
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:58:01, September 14, 2016 CET | From | Greyistische Demokraten | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 4089 |
| Message | Oppose. |
| Date | 16:00:05, September 14, 2016 CET | From | Anarchokommunistische Union | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 4089 |
| Message | OOC: Wtf you have no represantation in here Wobach. |
| Date | 16:04:56, September 14, 2016 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 4089 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, What is this ridiculous move to kick the 2 current parties out of the government? We had hoped for a coalition that would include all parties, but now we see the Anarcho-Communists for what they truly are. They have betrayed the Left to form a fragile coalition with Capitalist parties, just because the GNRG doesn't support their animal prostitution. The Liberal Democrats only agree with the Anarcho-Communists 33% of the time. They agree with the Anarcho-Communists less than they do with any party. Can an Anarcho-Communist president successfully command the support of the Presidium? They have just lost potential Leftist allies. Now, on to another thing... the distribution of cabinet posts in this coalition makes no sense. It shows no sense of direction with where the country is going. 3 different parties - with 3 different ideologies - control Finance, Trade & Industry, and Foreign Affairs. Damaging contradictions in government policy are inevitable. Even if the Libertarians and the Liberal Democrats want to form a coalition with the bull rapists, I strongly advise them to reject this specific proposal and work out a new one. -- Cletus Barlow, Chairman of the GNRG, Minister of Justice, Vice President of 2GDR Lodamun |
| Date | 16:13:27, September 14, 2016 CET | From | Greyistische Demokraten | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 4089 |
| Message | This is my party's opinion, not the official position of my country's foreign ministry. And do I want a terrorist organisation to form a coalition in this country? Of course no. OOC: Plus you also don't have any representation in the Darnussian Parlie and yet you were allowed to speak there, we can comment every law on terra, all players have that right. |
| Date | 16:17:24, September 14, 2016 CET | From | Anarchokommunistische Union | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 4089 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker So you call us bull rapist and wonder why we don't want to enter a coalition with you. Maybe you should mind your tone. The GNRG denounced us several times. This was no criticism, they only made fun of our party. You never behaved like an potential ally. It's a pity the relations between our parties are so bad, but this isn't our fault. The main goal of this new coalition is to get rid of laws which prohibit open criticism. The freedom of speach is a basic element for most democracies and all libertarian parties. Our three parties will work together to get these reforms done because the old government couldn't so this. As soon as the old parties accept this new, free system we can reshuffle the party combinations. Fiona Sepper Leader of the AKU |
| Date | 16:18:40, September 14, 2016 CET | From | Anarchokommunistische Union | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 4089 |
| Message | OOC: I know but you are just continuing your stupid terrorism bullshit which has nothing to do with my party, but with my person. |
| Date | 16:23:23, September 14, 2016 CET | From | Greyistische Demokraten | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 4089 |
| Message | ...so, you're a terrorist... |
| Date | 16:25:51, September 14, 2016 CET | From | Anarchokommunistische Union | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 4089 |
| Message | OOC: ...so you only hate me and Mbites and project this on my party because you are a moron... |
| Date | 16:26:46, September 14, 2016 CET | From | Grand Nationalist Fraction | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 4089 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, there is no need to form a new coalition in a haste just to change legislation. If the other parties want to form a coalition, fine by us. But we expect that at least they think it through first. Also, what Miss Sepper is conferring to as free speach will tear apart the unity of this nation. If we would publish everything said in this Presidium by some, these politicians would loose all credentials. Strange that it seems to be those politicians who want to get rid of censorship, for as far as there exists such a thing in Lodamun. Laurette Bagnon Minister of Internal Affairs |
| Date | 16:30:47, September 14, 2016 CET | From | Lodamese Republican Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 4089 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, Our party rejects this coalition, we will either work all together, Or our party will work with other partners but our party will not work with you. We do not agree enough. I agree with the LNC and the GNRG. Zeren Udarmann Verbands-Vorsitz |
| Date | 16:34:47, September 14, 2016 CET | From | Greyistische Demokraten | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 4089 |
| Message | Sarcastic: Yes, I am a moron and I do love you because of all the great thing you've done. I also hate justice and don't miss all the many players (really BAD players) who left Darnussia, because of you. Nevertheless your party truly doesn't have any connections to the old ER-KGD Regime, I was joking all the time. Our economy has never been better, because of your great actions. Plus my party's abbreviation ID stands for "Intellectual disability". |
| Date | 16:37:08, September 14, 2016 CET | From | Anarchokommunistische Union | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 4089 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker We respect the objection of the VLD. Since the libertarian parties are in a majority, a coalition in that all parties participate would bring the change, we talked about anyway. We will be willing to work together with the GNRG as long as they treat us with more respect. Of course there will be conflict but they could be a bit more objective. Fiona Seppert Leader of the AKU |
| Date | 16:37:48, September 14, 2016 CET | From | Lodamese Republican Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 4089 |
| Message | OOC: You probably just mistook sarcastic with reality. No problem, happens all the time. |
| Date | 16:42:07, September 14, 2016 CET | From | Greyistische Demokraten | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 4089 |
| Message | Yeah sure, seems like you often mix reality with sarcasm. You're a terrorist, fascist and a whore. |
| Date | 16:43:05, September 14, 2016 CET | From | Anarchokommunistische Union | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 4089 |
| Message | OOC: okay Wobach. First of all you could add an OOC. You still don't get what the problem is. Your party may hate my former party. That's completely ok. But you may not hate ME because I played this party. Also my new party doesn't have any thing in common with my former party. You don't decide who my party members know , because it's MY party. You get that? If I say in OOC that my party has no connection to my old party that's a FACT and you have to accept this. I get the feeling you have no idea what ooc or ic means. Maybe you should look up somewhere how roleplay works. If you have anything to answer please do that via PM. We have written enough on this Bill Page. |
| Date | 16:44:32, September 14, 2016 CET | From | Great National Republican Guard | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 4089 |
| Message | OOC: no Lodamese party spoke in Darnussia. Players spoke in Darnussia, out of character. The bill in Darnussia concerned them because it mentioned them. This bill doesn't concern you. Please keep your drama out of Lodamun. Your desperation for attention is annoying all of us. |
| Date | 16:45:14, September 14, 2016 CET | From | Lodamese Republican Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 4089 |
| Message | OOC: You have a problem with whores? |
| Date | 18:37:00, September 14, 2016 CET | From |   Moderation | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 4089 |
| Message | Okay guys, we're getting into OOC insulting/disrespectful behaviour here, so please cool it. Any more OOC insults and there will be warnings handed out. Given there appear to be issues between the Darnussia player and some of the players now in Lodamun, I want to ask those involved in this to keep a respectful distance from each other, at least for the time being. In other words, drop both the OOC arguments and the role-play (which seems heavily connected to the OOC arguments). Also, please bear in mind the Game Rules concerning outsider players contributing to bill debates: "13.1 Players using inactive accounts and/or accounts from outside nations may only propose bills and/or contribute to discussions, whether IC (in-character) or OOC (out-of-character) with the general consent of the players in the nation." Given the circumstances, at least for the time being, I want to specifically ask for players in Lodamun and Darnussia to keep out of each others bill debates. Thanks for listening and please get in touch if there are any further issues, Aquinas (Moderation) |
| Date | 22:52:30, September 14, 2016 CET | From | Lodamese Republican Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 4089 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker It is a scandal that two parties are not willing to accept a president because of religion. We will not stand for that. We will support this coalition. Zeren Udarmann Verbands-Vorsitz |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 329 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 270 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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