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Bill: VBS - Tobacco Bill

Details

Submitted by^[?]: VBS Party

Status^[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: July 2180

Description^[?]:

Because the bill is against the free market

Proposals

Article 1

Proposal^[?] to change Sale of tobacco products.

Old value:: Only adults may purchase tobacco.

Current: The sale of tobacco products is regulated by local governments

Proposed: There are no regulations on the sale of tobacco.

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date	20:13:23, January 31, 2006 CET
From	Selucian Sovereignty Party
To	Debating the VBS - Tobacco Bill
Message	Odd position for someone who repeatedly reminds us to "think of the children" Children should not be able to buy such lethal products without parental consent.

Date	23:41:58, January 31, 2006 CET
From	Uleroth Liberation Party
To	Debating the VBS - Tobacco Bill
Message	Think of the children - that sums up my position nicely.

Date	20:10:21, February 02, 2006 CET
From	VBS Party
To	Debating the VBS - Tobacco Bill
Message	Why couldn't a 17 year old buy cigarrettes? @ ULP: "Think of the children" is one of the earliest statements of the VBS party, and is used as a slogan for an election campaign about 15 years ago.

Date	20:13:40, February 02, 2006 CET
From	Selucian Sovereignty Party
To	Debating the VBS - Tobacco Bill
Message	Because under the law, they are not adults, and are therefore still under the care of their parents. Therefore, their parents have a right to require their consent before their children makes such a purchase.

Date	21:10:58, February 02, 2006 CET
From	VBS Party
To	Debating the VBS - Tobacco Bill
Message	So forbidding alcohol for everyone younger than 21is a good thing according to you?

Date	22:25:39, February 02, 2006 CET
From	Selucian Sovereignty Party
To	Debating the VBS - Tobacco Bill
Message	THe age of majority in Selucia is 18. Funny, you'd think a lawmaker with 60 years of experience here would know that by now, but I digress. Forbidding minors from purchasing it is fine. If their parents want to give them perimssion to consume, that is their decision.

Date	23:58:36, February 02, 2006 CET
From	VBS Party
To	Debating the VBS - Tobacco Bill
Message	In my country, the age of majority is 18, but everyone older than 14 can buy cigarretes and everyone older than 16 can buy alcohol. As you know, I live in Western Europe, so any comparison to an african country without accurate laws is NOT a good one

Date	06:26:13, February 03, 2006 CET
From	Selucian Sovereignty Party
To	Debating the VBS - Tobacco Bill
Message	who said anything about Africa?

Date	09:13:19, February 03, 2006 CET
From	VBS Party
To	Debating the VBS - Tobacco Bill
Message	Indeed, until now, nobody did

Date	19:30:24, February 03, 2006 CET
From	Imperial Party of Selucian
To	Debating the VBS - Tobacco Bill
Message	OK, folks. Here IG/Selucia you are an adult with 18 years. WE are able to set it up between 16 and 21 years. It is a pitty there isn't a different way to split alc and tabaco like in WE but that's the game as it is. But it was cool to read Selucia was understand as an African nation ... You saved my WE !

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Voting

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Seats

yes

VBS Party (84)

Total Seats: 84

Total Seats: 441

abstain

Green Moderate Party (50)

Total Seats: 50

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