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Bill: Fixing an error - 3rd attempt

Details

Submitted by[?]: Endralon Republican Alliance

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: July 4110

Description[?]:

Let's try again to approve this Bill rejected in March 4105: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=488087

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date06:27:02, October 22, 2016 CET
From Konzervatív Párt
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageAgain, NRA, you'll probably need to do a deal with whichever party you require to pass this constitutional amendment.

Date14:21:42, October 22, 2016 CET
From Endralon Republican Alliance
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageThis constitutional amendment will return the power of any party proposing a Cabinet, because the party holding the Presidency of the Republic possible does not have a parliamentary majority.

Date19:16:57, October 22, 2016 CET
From Szélsőbaloldali Koalíció
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageThis would make the job of whichever parties want to establish a coalition so much easier.

Date22:15:43, October 22, 2016 CET
From Endralon Republican Alliance
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageI'm just going to put this Bill to a vote when all the parties that have seats in the Federal Parliament to enter into an agreement.

Date06:08:41, October 23, 2016 CET
From Konzervatív Párt
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageInclude us in the government and we'll support.

Date11:24:11, October 23, 2016 CET
From Szélsőbaloldali Koalíció
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageThe point of a coalition is the parties that are part of it have some things in common. There might come a time, when you will not be Head of State but could be in government, but some other Head of State goes againts the constitution and won't give you the opportunitíy to establish one, and you will see why this is an important bill.

Date12:31:27, October 23, 2016 CET
From Konzervatív Párt
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageI understand why this Bill is important for you. If the situation was reversed I would respect the constitution.

Date13:38:48, October 23, 2016 CET
From Szélsőbaloldali Koalíció
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageWhich states that the Head of State has to appoint a coalition that has a majority in parliament?

Date06:54:37, October 24, 2016 CET
From Konzervatív Párt
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageI have tried, I have submitted three separate Coalitions that would have a majority, you keep opposing.

Date10:18:39, October 24, 2016 CET
From Szélsőbaloldali Koalíció
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageWe have proposed a coalition to you that would have had a majority in Parliament, but you weren't willing to fulfill your constitutional duties.

Date13:56:24, October 24, 2016 CET
From Endralon Republican Alliance
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageI'm going to put this Bill for vote and I wish that it be adopted, otherwise I'm going to try one more time.

Date13:59:11, October 24, 2016 CET
From Endralon Republican Alliance
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageFor the sake of the nation, this constitutional amendment has to be approved.

Date17:54:02, October 24, 2016 CET
From Endralon Republican Alliance
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageIf this Bill is adopted, any party can propose a cabinet without the need to negotiate with the President and the cabinet may represent the parliamentary majority.

Date21:27:57, October 24, 2016 CET
From Konzervatív Párt
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageThe President needs to maintain their constitutional position as the Head of State and their constitutional role as the arbiter of government. This would change that therefore we must oppose, for the good of the Fatherland.

Date23:48:31, October 24, 2016 CET
From Szélsőbaloldali Koalíció
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageThe president is not a toy of the biggest party, but the one who should represent national unity. The fact that you didn't appoint our cabinet shows, your disinterest in the constitution.

Date01:31:53, October 25, 2016 CET
From Endralon Republican Alliance
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageThis is for good right of the Fatherland, most Nations adopt the system proposed by this Bill, because it prevents crises occur because the Head of State does not want to propose a cabinet that has support of the majority. Besides, the President of the Republic is the symbol of our nation, but we must let who should decide on the Government should be solely the Federal Parliament. So I ask you for the love of God and for the good of Endralon, support this Bill for what it's worth, and so there is no need to convene several consecutive elections and face several consecutive rejections of Cabinet proposals.

Date01:33:41, October 25, 2016 CET
From Endralon Republican Alliance
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageSee we are one of the few countries that only the Head of State can propose a Cabinet: http://classic.particracy.net/viewvariable.php?variable=CABINET_PROPOSALS

Date07:55:04, October 25, 2016 CET
From Konzervatív Párt
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageNRA, the President has repeatedly proposed cabinets that would have the support of the majority in Parliament, do not present such libels against her. For the good of Endralon the President will continue to work long and hard to secure a cabinet.

To the Socialists, the Constitution is not a toy for political parties that repeatedly lose Head of State elections. There is nothing in the Constitution that says every party except the largest must be in the government. We understand the constitution, the Head of State appoints the government. She has done so previously and will do so for the foreseeable future.

Date07:56:18, October 25, 2016 CET
From Konzervatív Párt
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageNRA do not claim we need to do this for the good of Endralon simply because other countries do it. This is Endralon, we will do things the Endralon way and we will obey the constitution, not change it to suit our own narrow political aims.

Date11:03:21, October 25, 2016 CET
From Szélsőbaloldali Koalíció
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageThe Head of State is obliged to appoint a proposed cabinet that has a majority and is able to govern. When we proposed such cabinets you rejected us, thus ignoring the contitution.

Date15:31:33, October 25, 2016 CET
From Endralon Republican Alliance
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageThe duty to appoint the Cabinet must be of all parties, because they can negotiate among themselves without the intervention of the head of State that often can be harmful and can propose a cabinet entirely different from that recommended by the parties that negotiated among themselves, but the head of State, who is from a other party, wants his own proposal that goes against the majority. My proposal is for the sake of Endralon, as I have already explained, avoids political crises that are damaging the nation that avoids the smooth running of the Government and especially not reflect popular opinion given during the elections.

Date15:41:01, October 25, 2016 CET
From Endralon Republican Alliance
ToDebating the Fixing an error - 3rd attempt
MessageAn example: If the Szélsőbaloldali Koalíció wins the Presidency and the Konzervatív Párt the majority seats in the Parliament and propose a coalition cabinet with my party to the President and the President sent to the Federal Parliament a proposal totally different from the conservative proposal, in which the President put his party with the post of Prime Minister. I'm sure it would be rejected because it does not represent the will of the majority in Parliament, but only the will of the President who thinks that by having this Office should participate in the Government, when it should only represent and be the national symbol.

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