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Bill: Building a Platform- PdFL Electoral Committee
Details
Submitted by[?]: Parti des Frères Lourenne
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 4111
Description[?]:
| Peace to you, Brothers and Sisters Ahead of the coming election, the Electoral Committee of the Parti des Frères Lourenne will need to define some more of its positions. Given the incredibly limited number of proposals which may be made and the very slow rate at which we receive more proposals, unfortunately we are limited in what we may propose. None the less, we propose the following legislation, and when we earn some representation in the Legislature, we will work to move legislation along these lines. These proposals aim at reducing the coercive elements of state power over people's lives, reducing the force involved in policing, and encouraging the police to be full part of the communities that they police rather than something that the government may use to deny people their freedom of conscience whenever they desire to do so. Thank you for your consideration and we wish you a blessed day, Jeannette Boulonge |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Prison policy concerning prisoner labor.
Old value:: Able-bodied prisoners have to work during the day.
Current: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Proposed: Prisoners can do certain jobs in prison, voluntarily, for a small wage.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Curfew policy (curfew time to be determined in the bill description).
Old value:: Local governments may impose curfews, but only if a state of emergency has been declared.
Current: The national government may impose curfews, but only if a state of emergency has been declared.
Proposed: No curfew policies may be established.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's position towards the use of forensic DNA databases.
Old value:: Only DNA from persons convicted of crime is recorded.
Current: Only DNA from persons convicted of crime is recorded.
Proposed: No DNA is recorded.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change
The government's stance on illegal aliens.
Old value:: The government does not actively search for illegal aliens, but puts them in integration centers when discovered.
Current: The government does not actively search for illegal aliens, but puts them in integration centers when discovered.
Proposed: The government ignores illegal aliens.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change Policy on the organization of police/law enforcement
Old value:: There is a national police department funded by the national government and there are local police departments, funded by local governments.
Current: There is a national police department funded by the national government and there are local police departments, funded by local governments.
Proposed: The government does not operate or fund any police.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy towards police presence.
Old value:: The police patrol public property at all times.
Current: Presence of the police is left to the local governments.
Proposed: The police do not actively patrol public property.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The weapons used by police forces.
Old value:: Police officers may only carry standard firearms apart from specially trained firearms units.
Current: Police officers may only carry non-lethal weapons apart from specially trained firearms units.
Proposed: Police officers may only carry non-lethal weapons.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:14:51, October 27, 2016 CET | From | Parti des Frères Lourenne | To | Debating the Building a Platform- PdFL Electoral Committee |
| Message | Would the Speaker from Lutte Ouvrière care to make a comment on their opposition to this bill? |
| Date | 00:57:30, October 28, 2016 CET | From | Parti Unifié des Travailleurs | To | Debating the Building a Platform- PdFL Electoral Committee |
| Message | We can support Article 1 of this bill, but we cannot support any of the other proposals. The government must have the ability to protect the people with emergency curfews and lethal force if necessary, and the police must have the ability to patrol public property. Further, the policy of transferring illegal aliens into integration centers when discovered is for their protection and benefit - at the centers, the undocumented can access social services and begin the process of applying for legal residency. Simply ignoring illegal immigrants would leave these people in the shadows, unable to access services and become functioning members of society. If you'll create a new bill with Article 1, we will support it. |
| Date | 02:08:15, October 28, 2016 CET | From | Parti des Frères Lourenne | To | Debating the Building a Platform- PdFL Electoral Committee |
| Message | We thank the Lutte Ouvriere for their comment on this bill. And we hope that they realize that when we can put a coalition together to actually pass the points in this platform, we will do so. We are far more concerned about coercive state authority than we are about threats from our fellow citizens or foreigners. We hold that all people are equal, and so we would oppose a bill which creates specific categories of people. We would create a bill with just Article 1 in it, but as we only have a tiny amount of proposals available to us at any given time due to the law which limits Parties to a mere 10 proposals a year and the law which refills our proposals quota at the paltry rate of 5 proposals a year, and seeing as the LO is not actually proposing any changes to the law themselves which would help the PdFL define its positions, our proposal quota needs to be used far more scantily, as if it is a rare commodity. As it is now, we will be spending the next decade simply defining ourselves for the voters, so we cannot waste one single proposal in a way which does not help us create viability for the voters. Thank you for your willingness to support Article 1 in a law though, and if the LO wishes to propose it on their own, we will happily help them pass it and promote it in the Republic. |
| Date | 02:19:59, October 28, 2016 CET | From | Parti des Frères Lourenne | To | Debating the Building a Platform- PdFL Electoral Committee |
| Message | Or, if the LO would like to help us repeal Articles 1 and 2 of this bill: http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=485299 We would certainly be grateful. We understand the conservative impulse inherent in those two articles, designed to prevent large scale change, but we would appeal to the LO's sense of proprietary and open up the political system here in Lourenne. Because otherwise, we spend the vast majority of our four year terms simply waiting for the proposal quota to fill once more... |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 49 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 51 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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