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Bill: Freedom First Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党)

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: August 4115

Description[?]:

This bill is about increasing economic and social freedom in Sekowo in accordance with the constitution

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date00:08:02, November 03, 2016 CET
From 立憲維新党 (Rikken Ishin-tō)
ToDebating the Freedom First Act
MessageOur party believes that too much regulation will lead to complete chaos and the loss of many jobs. Corporations cannot have complete freedom.

Date00:12:07, November 03, 2016 CET
From 立憲維新党 (Rikken Ishin-tō)
ToDebating the Freedom First Act
MessageSome specific examples to support our position: Article 5 is an insult to secularism. Articles 6 and 9 are a threat to the environment. Article 17 risks putting many citizens in risk. Article 15 is immoral. Articles from 17 to 21 will the decrease the overall amount of education in our nation, as not all citizens have the money to pay for private education.

This party believes in freedom, but also prioritizes a safety net for all citizens in need.

Date11:51:28, November 03, 2016 CET
From Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党)
ToDebating the Freedom First Act
MessageWe believe in working with you to pass this bill let's try to create some bipartisan support on this bill please tell us what you would be okay with and what you wouldn't be okay with. We will remove the education parts for now so we can discuss them later on on a different bill. After that would you support this bill?

Date11:56:50, November 03, 2016 CET
From Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党)
ToDebating the Freedom First Act
MessageWe believe your party has good intentions for our people but your current policies are hurting our poorest people the worst I think you have given to much power to the government and large corporations. This overregulation is hurting small business and has all but nearly erased it as the regulation keeps them from doing so.

Date11:59:27, November 03, 2016 CET
From 立憲維新党 (Rikken Ishin-tō)
ToDebating the Freedom First Act
MessageWe are in support of more freedom, not deregulation. If you were to focus this bill on clauses that turn national industries into regulated private industries, we would support such a decision. For example, we support Article 6 and will support Article 7 as long as there are regulations to the business.

Summarizing our argument, we do not believe deregulation of companies are equal to increasing the freedom of our citizens. Total freedom leads to anarchy. Total order leads to totalitarianism. Both the government and corporations must be regulated.

Date14:49:04, November 03, 2016 CET
From Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党)
ToDebating the Freedom First Act
MessageYou are conflating the amount of freedom that we want to give back to the people to anarchy that is propsterous we are arguing that the corporations are the benefiting form this regulations and more government control not the people. The government is to involved in our people's lives and we think we need to work together to end this.

Date14:54:16, November 03, 2016 CET
From Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党)
ToDebating the Freedom First Act
MessageWe have removed many proposals which you didn't agree to would you be willing to agree to this bill now

Date01:42:14, November 04, 2016 CET
From 立憲維新党 (Rikken Ishin-tō)
ToDebating the Freedom First Act
MessageYour ideas of freedom damage the ideals of secularism and equal footing.

Date20:44:56, November 04, 2016 CET
From Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党)
ToDebating the Freedom First Act
MessageOur party believes in the idea of equality of opportunity under law and have concluded that the freer the market the freer the people the better off our citizens are. All of these programs to help the poor aren't helping they are barriers to their success and incentivize being poor. We need to stop subsiding poverty and large corporations. We would love to know how we are damaging the ideals of secularism because we believe that every religious and non religious individuals has a right to wear or not wear religious clothing and symbols. What's the difference between this preventing of peoples right to express themselves and those of religious theocracies which don't allow people to express themselves. It seems all this law is doing, is doing exactly that its in opposition too.

Date02:11:37, November 05, 2016 CET
From 立憲維新党 (Rikken Ishin-tō)
ToDebating the Freedom First Act
MessageArticle 2 refers to public officials, i.e. those in the government, wearing religious clothing.

Date13:33:41, November 05, 2016 CET
From Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党)
ToDebating the Freedom First Act
MessageYes and forcing them to wear nothing in relation to their religion and or only the kind of a certain religion are both bad. That's why they should be allowed too

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 0

no
 

Total Seats: 440

abstain
 

Total Seats: 0


Random fact: The players in a nation have a collective responsibility to ensure their "Bills under debate" section is kept in good order. Bills which are irrelevant or have become irrelevant should be deleted. Deletion can be requested for bills proposed by inactive parties on the Bill Clearout Requests thread: http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4363

Random quote: "If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual [gay] sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything!" - Rick Santorum

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