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Bill: Sekowo Weapons Rights Amendment of 4121
Details
Submitted by[?]: Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党)
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 4123
Description[?]:
| This bill would give more power to the people of Sekowo |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Current: Adult individuals may not own firearms unless professionally required.
Proposed: Individuals are allowed to own firearms as long as they do not have a history of dangerous mental illness or a violent criminality.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Weapons allowed to private citizens.
Old value:: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, but these may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Current: Only certain types of weapons may be owned by the general public, but these may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Proposed: Citizens may own any type of weapon. They may be carried anywhere except as determined by the property owner.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:29:44, November 16, 2016 CET | From | 立憲維新党 (Rikken Ishin-tō) | To | Debating the Sekowo Weapons Rights Amendment of 4121 |
| Message | This bill is an outrageous proposal that will skyrocket crime and threaten the lives of our citizens! Studies from worldwide have shown that looser restrictions to gun control do increase crime, no matter what the biased so-called research of your endorsers, the SRA, claims. There is nothing wrong with the current stance. Only citizens who absolutely require it should have guns. |
| Date | 17:27:37, November 16, 2016 CET | From | Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党) | To | Debating the Sekowo Weapons Rights Amendment of 4121 |
| Message | It is your party that has the false biased data. Name one example of how crime has gone down as a result of gun control. Name one? Because we have found that increased gun control has led to more crime and has in some cases lead to genocide or democide (death by government) |
| Date | 23:42:18, November 16, 2016 CET | From | Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党) | To | Debating the Sekowo Weapons Rights Amendment of 4121 |
| Message | The SRA does not endorse our party as a whole they may endorse certain candidates and maybe if your party stood up for the rights and safety of our citizens in regard to this issue then maybe they would support some of your parties representatives as well. But we do not receive funds from them in any way but we cannot say the same for your party and their endless amount of donors both corporate and union. |
| Date | 08:37:31, November 17, 2016 CET | From | 立憲維新党 (Rikken Ishin-tō) | To | Debating the Sekowo Weapons Rights Amendment of 4121 |
| Message | We would like your party to check again. We regulate corporations, there is no logical conclusion that they will support our efforts. Clearly your party lacks any form of logic and common sense and are unfit to rule this country. Nations with gun control have significantly decreased crime. One OOC example is Australia, which since banning/tightly regulating guns, has reduced significantly in crime. We ask that you provide an example of a place where laxed gun control has decreased crime. |
| Date | 12:32:18, November 17, 2016 CET | From | Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党) | To | Debating the Sekowo Weapons Rights Amendment of 4121 |
| Message | Actually, the Australia argument is false. Australia had crime going down before the ban irrelevant to the ban. Also Australia only had one certain crime go down but all other crime went up after the ban. It only went down because the level of gun ownership went back to its original amount in 2015. I can name 100 countries in which gun control didn't work and either resulted in genocide or an increase in crime. 20 OOC countries Russia, China, Honduras, Rwanda, Uganda, North Korea, Cambodia, Turkey, Tibet, Germany, Britain, Scotland, Ireland, Jamaica, Canada, Finland, El Salvador, Venezuela(which I have a relative that came from there, socialist utopia more like socialist nightmare, she knows what socialism is like that's why she is in the USA now), Zambia, Guatemala, Belize, Mexico and many parts of the USA like Chicago, Washington DC, New York, etc. also most gun deaths around 65% in the USA are suicides not crime related things. So the amount of gun deaths is actually way lower and according to your opinion would make the argument more guns=more crime due to the fact there are as many guns as there are people in the USA which means that crime should be way higher which it is not for the population of the USA. And trust me I can name many more. But as gun control increased in these countries so did crime and in some of them horrible atrocities occurred such as genocide in which hundreds of millions died without being able to fight back because they were disarmed. And I would love if your party could also name not a country but a situation where if your faced with a criminal you don't need a gun but a phone to call the police instead. Tell me how fast are the police vs. guns response times. Most police only arrive to put you into a body bag. Also you said name a country that has lax or laxed gun control well is there a country that doesn't have some form of gun control. But yes many parts of the USA are examples like Kennesaw, Georgia in which owning a gun is mandatory but not enforced and they have very low to nearly no crime. Switzerland has fairly low crime for Europe, as does the Czech Republic as there are fewer restrictions it's not like its machine guns and such for everyone but they do have lower crime compared to their neighboring countries. If a country was willing to try it I'm sure they would see a great reduction in crime. Corporations hate competition that's all I have to say about that in relation to what you said. |
| Date | 13:03:36, November 17, 2016 CET | From | 立憲維新党 (Rikken Ishin-tō) | To | Debating the Sekowo Weapons Rights Amendment of 4121 |
| Message | Switzerland has mandatory gun ownership, but bullets are severely restricted. Not sure what you mean by genocide in Germany, though. If you're referring to the Third Reich, your argument is false. Gun laws were on of the most laxed in Nazi Germany, the restricting guns were from the Weimar Republic. |
| Date | 20:15:44, November 17, 2016 CET | From | Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党) | To | Debating the Sekowo Weapons Rights Amendment of 4121 |
| Message | That is a half truth. Certain groups like Jews and other political enemies and such were highly regulated or completely prohibited from owning firearms. The restriction of gun may be directed towards specific groups such was the case in the United States with African Americans and Native Americans who were not allowed to own guns. Germany with the Jews. Turkey with the Armenians. Religious groups in China, Cambodia, the Tutsi in Rwanda. Even if it's targeted regulations and bans it's still gun control attributing to their deaths. |
| Date | 21:52:11, November 17, 2016 CET | From | Jiyū Party of Sekouo (自由党) | To | Debating the Sekowo Weapons Rights Amendment of 4121 |
| Message | Also if banning guns works so great why don't we ban cars, knives, hammers, baseball bats, etc. because those are used by criminals and kill just as many if not more people than guns in most countries. Guns are tools just like the rest of those things they are all used by ordinary people without any problem but they also are used to commit crimes do you politicians attempt to ban those? No, why not. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |
| yes | Total Seats: 233 | |
| no |
Total Seats: 207 | |
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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