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Bill: Secular Reform 4121
Details
Submitted by[?]: Dorvische Sozial Nationale Volkspartei
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 4122
Description[?]:
| A bill to reform our secular society and protect it even more than we already do by ensuring public officials stay proffesional and some other things. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The state's intervention in the appointment of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Current: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Proposed: The state has the right to veto the appointment of any ministers of religion.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Current: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Proposed: Public officials are not allowed to wear religious symbols while exercising their duties.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Current: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Proposed: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religion shall be borne by the state and regulated by the law.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:08:20, November 17, 2016 CET | From | Fortschrittsvereinigung | To | Debating the Secular Reform 4121 |
| Message | Herr Speaker, The problem with this bill is that it intrudes into religion too much, one could argue this is the opposite of a secular bill as it is favouring atheism as opposed to neutrality. Our government should not have the right to veto the appointment of any ministers of religion, as we would then be involving ourselves in religious affairs and that is the opposite of secularism. The third article would have the state give the salaries and pensions of religious ministers and is again the opposite to secularism, whilst the second proposal is an attack of freedom of expression. Kurt Krier, Leader of the Progress/Radical Alliance |
| Date | 20:16:52, November 17, 2016 CET | From | Konservative Union | To | Debating the Secular Reform 4121 |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, this bill poses danger to one of the basics freedoms in our country.. freedom of religion and as Mr. Kier said freedom of expression. DSU will vote against. If we treat church as a normal for-profit institution and make their authorities pay taxes we should not be involved in the internal regulation of church afterall. Aaron Posse, DSU leader. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 259 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 241 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Bill descriptions must be in English, or at least include a full English translation. Bill titles may appear in a language that is appropriate to the nation and are not required to be translated into English. |
| Random quote: "He who wishes to be obeyed must know how to command." - Niccolo Machiavelli |