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Bill: Secular State bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Socialist Party of Baltusia (SPB)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 4129
Description[?]:
| Our state is already separated, constitutionally, from the Church, any church. This is why we need to reinforce this Secularity. This bill will do so, giving our National fellowmen the security that no religion will be forced to them or their children. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Racial and religious registration of nationals.
Old value:: All nationals are required to register their race and religion.
Current: The government does not require nationals to register their race or religion.
Proposed: The government does not require nationals to register their race or religion.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Only recognised religions may set up religious schools, with no regulations.
Current: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Proposed: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Current: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 10:57:29, December 01, 2016 CET | From | Patriotic Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the Secular State bill |
| Message | Mr Minority Speaker of the House Damation, I'm sure your supporters will be glad to see you back playing an active role in Congress. However, our party has several issues with your bill: Firstly where does it say in the constitution that our state is separated from the church, any church? If this is the case, when our party proposed to make Hosianism the state religion in a recent bill why did we not need to get a 2/3rds majority (as per a constitutional amendment) in order for it to pass. Instead it was just a normal law, therefore I suggest this is not written into the constitution and is a false claim on your behalf. Secondly, Article 1. This bill was passed in order to help the government obtain up-to-the minute census information it has nothing to do with forming a religious or secular state. People can fill in the form stating they are Hosian, atheist, agnostic, whatever their creed. It is simply about data gathering. Thirdly we believe in freedom of choice. Surely if people want to send their children to a recognised religious school they should be able to do so without impediment and teachers should be able to have freedom of choice to decide if prayers are appropriate. What is all this about forbidding? What next - forbidding the wearing of religious symbols or clothing? You say you do not want to force religion on people this is forcing secularism on people who have faith. Ralph Mason, Majority Speaker of the House |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 297 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 319 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 84 |
| Random fact: Voters have an extra appreciation for bills that actually get passed, so if you want to maximally take profit from your votes, make sure you compromise with others. |
| Random quote: "A racially integrated community is a chronological term timed from the entrance of the first black family to the exit of the last white family." - Saul Alinsky |