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Bill: Pension Reform Act of 2181
Details
Submitted by[?]: Uleroth Liberation Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2182
Description[?]:
| This bill would establish a compulsory public coffer. For people whose cultures dictate that families take care of the elderly, these folks have the option to opt out of the plan by having their contributions refunded either on a yearly basis or upon retirement with the finances going to a family member to aid in caring for retired people. Other people would contribute to the pension plan during employment and be ensured at least their public pension upon retirement. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the pension system.
Old value:: The state does not operate a pension system. Individuals must save up for retirement on their own.
Current: The state offers a voluntary public pension, combined with other voluntary private pensions.
Proposed: The state operates a compulsory public system combined with an optional private pension.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 12:23:03, February 05, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the Pension Reform Act of 2181 |
| Message | No bloody way, we finally were able to change this to all private, let's shut up about this |
| Date | 18:01:22, February 05, 2006 CET | From | Selucian Sovereignty Party | To | Debating the Pension Reform Act of 2181 |
| Message | I'm in favour. This simply imposes a duty on citizens to look after themselves in their golden years - it is the responsible thing to do. |
| Date | 22:04:24, February 05, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the Pension Reform Act of 2181 |
| Message | I would change the name of this bill to Big Socialist Governement Act That's what this is: stealing money from taxpayers. ssp: YOU supported the change to the only-private bill, hypocrit again? |
| Date | 03:44:37, February 06, 2006 CET | From | Selucian Sovereignty Party | To | Debating the Pension Reform Act of 2181 |
| Message | No, actually, I voted against the change. Then, months later, a bill to make it public again was introduced. I felt it was in the interests of democracy and the electorate to give the new system a chance, so I voted in favour of the status quo so as to give the victors of the private system an opportunity to prove themselves. Enough time has now passed - the experiment has been a failure. Its time to right this injustice. |
| Date | 09:59:53, February 06, 2006 CET | From | VBS Party | To | Debating the Pension Reform Act of 2181 |
| Message | NO, you did NOT http://80.237.164.51/particracy/main/viewbill.php?billid=41822 It is clear you voted PRO the change, isn't it? You even explained why, so your mouse didn't even slip accidentally to the yes button. Yoiur attitude is one fine piece of hypocricy |
| Date | 15:05:27, February 06, 2006 CET | From | Selucian Sovereignty Party | To | Debating the Pension Reform Act of 2181 |
| Message | Thanks for the reminder VBS. I had completely forgotten about the cultural tolerance argument that you had made which caused me to change my vote. I have accordingly changed my vote to "no" from "yes". |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 236 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 257 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 82 |
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