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Bill: Family Finacial Benefit Act of November 2181
Details
Submitted by[?]: Proletariat Revolution Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 2183
Description[?]:
| The family is an important element in any society. For this reason, this act is put before the government. It is fundamental to any society that we allow for families to make the choice they feel best suit them; whether it is to abort the unborn child as permitted by the law, place it up for adoption or keep it. Should choose they keep the child, the government will provide a monetary benefit based on the income and other variable factors. The government will also provide the same benefit for each subsequent child. This act doesn't seek to eliminate other viable options, but rather provide an option that will appeal to all the people of Likatonia. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy regarding child benefit.
Old value:: The state guarantees child benefit to families classified as low-income or poor.
Current: The state guarantees child benefit to all families.
Proposed: The state guarantees child benefit to all families.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:47:46, February 06, 2006 CET | From | Likaton Fascist Front | To | Debating the Family Finacial Benefit Act of November 2181 |
| Message | Why should we give child benefit, or indeed any benefit to affluent families ? This is just making the rich richer, and could even be the incentive for a 'cottage industry' of childbearing for financial reward. |
| Date | 05:03:39, February 07, 2006 CET | From | Proletariat Revolution Party | To | Debating the Family Finacial Benefit Act of November 2181 |
| Message | IF you had read the description, the amount would be dependant on the result that is in the notice of assesment - aka, income and other variable factors. It would help those who need it. The government collects taxes and in order to qualify, you need to fill out your tax return and hence, it would be based on such. |
| Date | 05:26:21, February 07, 2006 CET | From | Commonwealth Workers Army | To | Debating the Family Finacial Benefit Act of November 2181 |
| Message | AMA opposes. We believe child benefit should protect those most in need... and we believe the current law allows that. Opening the brackets on this, invites abuses. |
| Date | 06:00:42, February 07, 2006 CET | From | Likaton Fascist Front | To | Debating the Family Finacial Benefit Act of November 2181 |
| Message | To the Axis Mundi SLP: IF you had read the proposed legislation states that "The State guarantees child benefit to all families". No ifs, buts or provisos. There is no rule to say some qualify and others don't. In fact if we are to get really literal, the act would even give the child benefit to childless couples. Rediculous. |
| Date | 14:22:51, February 07, 2006 CET | From | Proletariat Revolution Party | To | Debating the Family Finacial Benefit Act of November 2181 |
| Message | Yes, which is why we added in a protection clause in the description. Like with the "reasonable" grounds to fire an employee... there are 'variable factors' involved. |
| Date | 15:14:11, February 07, 2006 CET | From | Conservative Liberal Party | To | Debating the Family Finacial Benefit Act of November 2181 |
| Message | We'll support, the more children the better. |
| Date | 22:45:46, February 07, 2006 CET | From | Proletariat Revolution Party | To | Debating the Family Finacial Benefit Act of November 2181 |
| Message | Thank you. CP. To the sceptics; the law just says to all families with children, but it doesn't say how much they get or what they get it based on. Do consider; it's not so concrete that it means all families get the same amount of money. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 193 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 307 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: It is not allowed to call more than 5 elections in 5 game years in a nation. The default sanction for a player persisting in the early election tactic will be a seat reset. |
| Random quote: "It is necessary for him who lays out a state and arranges laws for it to presuppose that all men are evil and that they are always going to act according to the wickedness of their spirits whenever they have free scope." - Niccolo Machiavelli |